I won't be updating this much
AJ seems to be communicating well what issues are left. That said I am tracking some less communicated issues under ["DDanielsIssueTrackingNotes"]
This wiki entry needs a lot of work on formating and keeping up to date.
debian-release@lists.debian.org is the best place to discuss release issues. I'm going to start posting some unofficial status report there like I did for my freeze date estimate last month in http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2003/debian-release-200306/msg00004.html
Note: I don't think I've updated the menu and translation items yet.
I may not be pointing to the canonical locations. My guesses about priorities (1-3) of things to be done before Sarge is released is below with status information. I'm unsure as to where to get status information about some things in the second paragraph below (which is mainly about packages).
||1||gcc 3.3 (and g++ abi change?) transition status (versions with c102 suffix)|| gcc-3.3 and glibc currently have some issues which are holding many things back.
The c102 plan: http://people.debian.org/~rmurray/c++transition.html
The G++ 3.2 transition status http://people.debian.org/~willy/gcc-transition/
A [http://www.google.ca/search?as_q=c102&num=100&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=packages.debian.org&safe=images search reveals] but this search is inaccurate. It only tells about the last crawled i386 package pages and includes packages that depend/recomend/suggest these i386 c102 packages. g++-3.2 and 3.3 have the same ABI.
- Transition should now be done to 3.3, but I believe this means packages already compiled with 3.2 should still work.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200307/msg00106.html is a comment on the current status||
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Release Critical Bugs |
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Problems in testing |
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["IPV6"] |
Status & status guesses: http://debdev.fabbione.net/cgi-bin/getstats and ipv6 tagged bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/tag:ipv6 Note some 3rd party 2005 and october deadlines for ["IPV6"] stuff in http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-1020653.html?tag=fd_top |
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Debian Description Translation Projects (DDTP?) |
Status: http://ddtp.debian.org/stats/ with an anoucement ( http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200304/msg00015.html ) of an APT with translation support. Also: http://www.de.debian.org/international/l10n/ has status and ranked information about l10n and i18n in package Descriptions and templates. http://www.de.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#i18n (in development) talks about howto do l10n, i18n, and m17n. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200305/msg00348.html discusses 4 basic goals. |
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UTF-8 or ["UTF8"]? |
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200303/msg01520.html suggests a status site. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200305/msg02012.html talks about the current list of programs with i18n support disabled. |
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Package attributes |
(Is done by "tags" and/or keywords. I'd like to include upstream trove information): http://deb-usability.alioth.debian.org/debtags/index.html has details of the tag Package browser, debtags package information and links to other package tag discussions/information. |
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Menu system |
Update to conform to http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu/draft/menu-spec/menu-spec.html (as suggested in http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg00800.html ) The old update was abandonded but contributes to the new standard. |
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AMD x86-64 port |
Several threads have been on debian-devel about this. i386 packages will aparently work for this arch. (Note: According to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg01975.html AMD prefers the port to be called ["AMD64"] and not x86-64 or alike) "gcc-3.3 is a prerequisite" says http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200305/msg00360.html There is also a mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64 to replace the old alioth mailing list. Official page is located here: http://debian.org/ports/amd64/ Also http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=no&bug=197117 and http://people.debian.org/~gt/lib64/ may also be of interest |
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lfs (large file size) |
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flex transition |
Silently a major revision of flex came into unstable and broke parts of openoffice.org, postgresql and many others. flex-old is now available so a slower transition can be allowed while not delaying sarge. |
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["XFree86"] status (sarge'll have 4.3.0, 4.2.1 was abandonded due to gcc compilation issues, but is back) |
http://people.debian.org/~branden/xsf/ http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2003/debian-x-200305/msg00134.html gives some status and information about how to help. http://lists.debian.org/debian-x86-64/2003/debian-x86-64-200305/msg00003.html asks for help to port 4.3.0 to the ["AMD64"] (aka x86-64). http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2003/debian-x-200306/msg00480.html appears to be the 4.3.0 release plan. http://packages.qa.debian.org/xfree86 shows 4.2.1-9 is in unstable (and I'm expecting will be in testing in 2 days). |
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Linux Kernel |
The thread starting at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200305/msg01334.html discusses how the kernel source, images, patches and related packages need to be handled differently, especialy for security update reasons. |
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Linux kernel 2.6 |
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg00964.html there were some potential Debian Installer (d-i) issues listed in the same thread. In http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200305/msg00397.html aj says not to wait for 2.6. 2.5 was feature frozen October 31, 2002 ? The thread at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg02113.html discusses how 2.5 can work. m68k still uses 2.2 and it's hoped that 2.2 won't be in sarge+1. Rumors of a release this summer are discussed, but it's also predicted to be "unstable" for a while after it goes to 2.6. |
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KDE (3.1?)? |
August update at http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/debian-kde-200308/msg00033.html says 3.1.3 is in SID. There are a number of ports that need to be retried. |
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libpng transition |
versioned symbols are now available. debian-devel has some discussion about this archived for Jan and Jul 2002. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200207/msg01106.html is quite interesting. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg01079.html lists some more info. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg01880.html described a past situation, http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200306/msg00619.html described the situation in June, http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200307/msg01271.html describes the current situation. |
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QT transition (Qt2->Qt3)? |
Mentioned in thread http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200303/msg00217.html |
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["MySQL"] 4 |
http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mysql-dfsg.html (note there was a libmysqlclient12 bug, it isn't lgpl and there's openssl vs gpl and gpl vs lgpl licence issues) http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200305/msg00253.html discusses the current situation. |
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Gnome2 |
http://people.debian.org/~walters/gnome2.html "GNOME 2.2.2 summary 15/07/2003" at http://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2003/debian-gtk-gnome-200307/msg00061.html and my rough check at: http://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2003/debian-gtk-gnome-200307/msg00140.html Some of Gnome2 is in testing. pilot-link's new soname means that kdelibs is going to have to be ready first, among other things, before control-center can be updated. |
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Java |
(some packages were in contrib/non-free because they wouldn't work with free Java implementations (ie kaffe). kaffe is free but marked ["REMOVE"], (Sun's jre isn't?), gcj and gij need some work acording to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg01210.html An old, but still relevant java faq is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq I'm unsure what's holding up an upload of Kaffe (I haven't asked). |
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guile 1.4 -> 1.6 transition? |
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200302/msg00255.html Josselin Mouette says in http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg01079.html that 1.6 is broken. It seems we'll be sticking with 1.4 for a while. http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=guile-1.6 p.qa.d.o and bugs.d.o seems to indicate that only build issues are holding back guile 1.6, and there are now proposed patches. |
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Apache2, Apache and php4 |
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200306/msg00916.html http://ca.php.net/install.apache2 says not to run Apache 2.0 and php4 in a production environment, but I don't know why. |
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ocaml status? |
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200306/msg01062.html says there's a new target of getting 3.07 in. |
Some other notes:
"reasons sarge is going to blow you away": http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2002/debian-devel-announce-200209/msg00004.html
Boot-floppies status (very likely has to be replaced with the debian-installer): http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/
Packages not in testing reasons and priority lists: http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/
Testing information: http://www.debian.org/devel/testing
Update excuses: http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html.gz
Update output: http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_output.txt.gz
Archives of the mailing list for "Coordinating Debian releases" (includes assignments and reports on assignments): http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/
QA information (links to info on RC bugs and alike): http://qa.debian.org/
A Woody+1 (aka sarge) release goal wishlist: http://people.debian.org/~erich/woody+1/
Discussion about Woody+1 (goals) at: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200205/msg02497.html
Older (hamm, slink) release goals: http://people.debian.org/~joey/goals/
Info about release(d) revisions of Stable: http://people.debian.org/~joey/stable.html
Website translation status: http://www.debian.org/devel/website/stats/
Debian keys trust metrics: http://people.debian.org/~weasel/weboftrust/ (It'd be nice to see a higher trust metric.)
Package Popularity (popularity-contest): http://people.debian.org/~ballombe/popcon/ replaces the now broken http://people.debian.org/~apenwarr/popcon/
Devel todo list: http://www.debian.org/devel/todo/
General information about sarge: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/
Package diff between Debian testing and unstable: http://developer.skolelinux.no/info/cdbygging/distdiff-all.html.gz
Linux Kernel 2.4 and 2.5 68k port status and patches: http://linux-m68k-cvs.apia.dhs.org/~geert/
Old items that I haven't updated because I consider them to be resolved for now:
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gzip rsync patch (patch will be removed or fixed for alphas): http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=gzip this was fixed, but there's still a bug set to hold the rsync patch out of testing. |
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fhs status: http://qa.debian.org/fhs.html Done. |
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Postgresql (uprade bug fixed, but flex bug is kludged, help needed) |
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Ooo (OpenOffice.org 1.0.3?): More info at least on the debian ooo mailing list. http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openoffice.org.html shows some info |
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Perl transition (5.6-5.8): The debian-perl list might have an up to date status. Perl 5.8.0-17 is in testing now. |
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Postgresql 7.3.2r1-5 is in testing |
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Python transition: Python 2.2 -> Python 2.3 transition Status: http://people.debian.org/~joss/python-list.txt Info: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200308/msg00361.html Note: I read somewhere Python2.3 supports all the features of 2.2 so a transition should be as easy as a "recompile". |
Old status stuff
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KDE 3 http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200306/msg00424.html suggests tracking the kdebase package. The thread at http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/debian-kde-200306/msg00278.html talks about transition status. |
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GNOME 2 (is the imlib png library compatiblility issue involve here?) In http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2003/debian-release-200307/msg00002.html I give some status information. |
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Python transition: 2.2.2-6 was in testing. http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2003/debian-python-200304/msg00010.html shows part of how it finished. |