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 * Using usertagging as default view for bugs.d.o/www.d.o?  * Using usertagging as default view for bugs.d.o/www.d.o? 
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== A list of TODO items - not in a particular order == == A list of TODO items - now in a particular order ==
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 * process feedback and get constructive/real remarks from it: http://lists.debian.org/201102060736.24648.thomas@koch.ro http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00085.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00091.html http://lists.debian.org/201102082002.14245.alan.braslau@cea.fr Bug:612208 Bug:612244 Bug:612444 === About new layout ===

==== Feedback ====
Via '''Mailing list''':
 * Skip Quicknav link (not displayed cause of .hidecss (line 651) ) is dangling http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00059.html
 * Proposed 13px as absolute minimum font-size http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00076.html
 * "Text columns should not be to wide. If they are, the eye looses orientation and the text gets more unpleasant to read. I've found the following guidelines: 60-80 characters or 10-12 words (in english texts) or 30-35em. http://www.elmastudio.de/webdesign/typo-tipps-fuer-webdesigner-fliesstexte-gestalten http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00076.html
 * You could put the news and security advisors on the frontpage in a column on the right and thus making the main text narrower. http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00076.html
 * again, for 60-80 characters tw column another user http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00079.html
 * too small font-size for the #hometoc and also for Icons text on wiki start page (on 1600x900 laptop screen) while the normal text is ok http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00085.html
 * there are not cross link from www.d.o to wiki.d.o and back http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00085.html
 * "Report it" button lead to a "thank you" page http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00089.html
 * behind the Debian logo on the left (of the header) the background's fade effect isn't the same and seems broken. It would be nicer with the same fade colours of the central headers. http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00091.html
 * "Report it" button only lead to a "thank you" page http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00091.html
 * again about "Report it" button http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00291.html
 * too much scrolling: less information per page and more pages or maybe better navigation tools http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00202.html

Minor issues via '''BR''':
 * DebianBug:612208
 * DebianBug:612244
 * DebianBug:612444
 
==== www.d.o ====
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 * which compatibility against web browsers are we looking for ? IE7 ? Default epiphany with small min font size ?
 * get all apache logs to a central location and run statistics over it
 * check the vendors list: english/CD/vendors/testvendors.pl seems a script to do this job (thanks Tolimar for this hint!)
 * taffit suggested to contact /users/ to check if they still use Debian
 * improve /intro/help section reorganizing contents on how to contribute per-profile (see DebianBug:608400)
 * website <-> wiki relation. Which data comes where?
 * which compatibility against web browsers are we looking for ? IE7 ? Default epiphany with small min font size?
 * there is a scaling issue on the front page when Iceweasel is set to "Zoom Text Only", the RSS buttons push the design so that a horizontal scroll bar appears. the issue appears to be that they are set to strictly 35px wide, instead of whatever size they need to be. turning off the width doesn't appear to have any adverse affects. I wonder if the line-height should be px too
==== Planet ====
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 * review and update doc/books entries (Tolimar volunteers for that and has already some preparations)
 * there is a scaling issue on the front page when Iceweasel is set to "Zoom Text Only", the RSS buttons push the design so that a horizontal scroll bar appears. the issue appears to be that they are set to strictly 35px wide, instead of whatever size they need to be. turning off the width doesn't appear to have any adverse affects. I wonder if the line-height should be px too
==== Lists ====
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 * set a specific road map for ''/doc/'' area:
    * apply kallesdesign also for Dev ref, Installation Manual, release notes, Debian FAQ (see: http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00112.html)
    * split data and content in the ''/doc/'' area
    * apply content changes proposed by osamu (see http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00094.html)
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=== Reviving site's areas ===
 * check the '''/CD/vendors/''' list: english/CD/vendors/testvendors.pl seems a script to do this job (thanks Tolimar for this hint!)
 * taffit suggested to contact '''/users/''' to check if they still use Debian
 * improve '''/intro/help''' section reorganizing contents on how to contribute per-profile (see DebianBug:608400)
 * review and update '''doc/books''' entries (Tolimar volunteers for that and has already some preparations)
 * set a specific road map for '''/doc/''' area:
  * apply kallesdesign also for Dev ref, Installation Manual, release notes, Debian FAQ (see: http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00112.html)
  * split data and content in the ''/doc/'' area [madamezou]
  * apply content changes proposed by osamu (see http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2011/02/msg00094.html)
 * check vendors listed in '''/distrib/pre-installed''' [madamezou]: the plan is
  * visit sites to check if vendor still sell PCs with Debian pre-installed, if not or if in doubt
  * send a mail asking if they still do, saying that if there will not be response after 10 days we will remove them.

=== Misc ===

 * get all apache logs to a central location and run statistics over it
 * website <-> wiki relation. Which data comes where?
 

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Agenda for meeting 2011-02-15

  • Template and README for other projects to pull from
  • Layout issues
    • RTL(right to left writing) problem in the design
    • Planet doesn't work well with min font size settings, feedlist overlaps entry texts (acessibility bug for visual handicaped people)
    • Language switch improvement
    • http://www.debian.org/misc/awards got a bit ugly (maybe due to usage of tables)

    • BRs

      On www.d.o:

      • 612138 i, (Old translation warning hides text in the new style)

      • 612118 n, "/distrib/ should link to multi-arch image rather than separate 32-bit and 64-bit images"

      • 612120 n, "/releases/squeeze kfreebsd-amd64 should link to /ports/kfreebsd-gnu" [needed a 301 or a 200: symoon already on it, he said he want to discuss with DSA about the best way to fix]

      • 612152 n, "main page in russian: wrong word wrapping" [I've checked when reported and now again: it seems that the utf-8 conversion has fixed it. maybe we can ask l10n-russian to further check - for other pages]

      • 612442 n, "limit maximum width of text"

      • 612208 m, "review of the new website style": some minor issues/suggestions (IMVHO needs to be considered: at least the gradient thing and the alignment one)

      • 612244 m, "Home banner kerning wonky"

      • 612577 m, "history/navigation bar always lowercase" [symoon on it, but I haven't understand if it is resolved or not :)] (IMO needs to be cloned into wiki.d.o: is an issue for wiki but not for www.d.o)

      • 612447 w, "Home button and menu line doesn't look good with line break on small windows"

      • 612116 w, "/CD/ should now redirect to the new /distrib/"

      On planet.d.n:

      • 612444 m, [planet.d.o] "people names on planet hard to read" [Kalle on it]

      On packages.d.o:

      • 612468 m, [packages.d.o] "minor issues with the new theme" [symoon already resolved most of it]

      • 612772 m, [packages.d.o] "footer overlaps with right sidebar links"

  • Work on "Layout Problems" logfiles
  • Further apache.conf tweaks? (zobel/symoon)
  • Using usertagging as default view for bugs.d.o/www.d.o?
  • UTF-8 conversion (taffit/MadameZou see 567781)

  • DebCamp work session - What to do? Initial proposal

Minutes of the meeting: summary, full log.


A list of TODO items - now in a particular order

About new layout

Feedback

Via Mailing list:

Minor issues via BR:

www.d.o

  • Use Javascripts from get.debian.net to select/highlight the arch matching the visitor
  • make http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ more compact (like CD/vendors, need mirror_list.pl tweak, and sorting the user country first)

  • inter-sites links under the red button ? (symoon solution does work with CSS2 browsers, not IE7..)
  • which compatibility against web browsers are we looking for ? IE7 ? Default epiphany with small min font size?
  • there is a scaling issue on the front page when Iceweasel is set to "Zoom Text Only", the RSS buttons push the design so that a horizontal scroll bar appears. the issue appears to be that they are set to strictly 35px wide, instead of whatever size they need to be. turning off the width doesn't appear to have any adverse affects. I wonder if the line-height should be px too

Planet

  • red PLANET bit on planet.d.o/es needs to link back to the main page
  • planet.d.o/cgi-bin/search.cgi is completely unstyled

Lists

  • on lists.d.o the "mailing lists" red thing is not a link to the top of the lists page.

Reviving site's areas

  • check the /CD/vendors/ list: english/CD/vendors/testvendors.pl seems a script to do this job (thanks Tolimar for this hint!)

  • taffit suggested to contact /users/ to check if they still use Debian

  • improve /intro/help section reorganizing contents on how to contribute per-profile (see 608400)

  • review and update doc/books entries (Tolimar volunteers for that and has already some preparations)

  • set a specific road map for /doc/ area:

  • check vendors listed in /distrib/pre-installed [madamezou]: the plan is

    • visit sites to check if vendor still sell PCs with Debian pre-installed, if not or if in doubt
    • send a mail asking if they still do, saying that if there will not be response after 10 days we will remove them.

Misc

  • get all apache logs to a central location and run statistics over it
  • website <-> wiki relation. Which data comes where?

/!\ Please note that this is not a wish list!