• Diff for "ReleaseProposals"

[http://www.zcfounder.com/patent/fanyico2/fanyi_15.htm 专利注册][http://andy197819.51.net/xgwz gps] [http://www.lrxdq.com/gps 同类网站][http://www.rituo.com/knowledge 同类网站][http://wpromotion.51.net/xgwz gps] [http://www.zcfounder.com/rzcping 人造草坪][http://www.51gps.com/gps/xgwz 同类网站] [http://www.zcfounder.com/yujia/fanyico2/fanyi_15.htm 瑜珈培训]

[http://www.zcfounder.com/yujia/fanyico2/fanyi_13.htm 瑜伽培训] [http://www.51gps.com gps] [http://www.rituo.com 标志设计]

[http://www.cebooks.net books]

[http://www.lrxdq.com 会记公司] [http://www.ceo863.com 图书] [http://www.zcfounder.com/yujia/fanyico2/fanyi_15.htm 瑜伽培训] [http://www.zcfounder.com/yujia 瑜珈] [http://www.zcfounder.com/yujia 瑜伽] [http://www.zcfounder.com google网络宣传] [http://www.zcfounder.com/promotion.htm google广告宣传] [http://www.zcfounder.com/website.htm 网站建设北京] [http://www.zcfounder.com/oasoft.htm OA办公自动化软件] [http://www.zcfounder.com/khgl.htm 客户管理软件] [http://www.zcfounder.com/jxc.htm 进销存财务软件] [http://www.zcfounder.com/hotel.htm 酒店管理软件]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/bregis/ 商标注册] 

[http://www.zcfounder.com/caigang/ 彩钢] [http://www.zcfounder.com/cping/ 草坪]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/design 平面设计]
 [http://www.zcfounder.com/fangwei/ 防伪] 

[http://www.zcfounder.com/giftco/ 礼品公司]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/glasses/ 验光配镜] 

[http://www.zcfounder.com/gps/ wiki:GPS] [http://www.zcfounder.com/jiayimin/ 加拿大移民] [http://www.zcfounder.com/kouqang/ 口腔门诊] [http://www.zcfounder.com/law/ 律师事务所] [http://www.zcfounder.com/ledscreen/ LED大屏幕] [http://www.zcfounder.com/lxym/ 留学移民] [http://www.zcfounder.com/patent/ 专利注册] [http://www.zcfounder.com/rentcar 汽车租赁]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/sifa/ 司法考试] 

[http://www.zcfounder.com/ticket/ 打折机票] [http://www.zcfounder.com/transcompany/ 翻译公司] [http://www.zcfounder.com/vod vod]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/yiminnew/ 新西兰移民]
 [http://www.zcfounder.com/yujia/ 瑜珈] 

[http://www.zcfounder.com/zhanlan/ 展览] [http://www.zcfounder.com/yuanlin 园林机械] [http://www.zcfounder.com/office/ 办公设备]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/office1/ 办公用品]

[http://www.zcfounder.com/qichepeijian 汽车配件] [http://www.zcfounder.com/dianzibaiban 电子白板] [http://www.zcfounder.com/zichanpinggu 资产评估] [http://www.zcfounder.com/yikatong 一卡通] [http://www.zcfounder.com/guangduanji 光端机] [http://www.zcfounder.com/minjin 门禁] [http://www.zcfounder.com/jiankong 监控] [http://www.zcfounder.com/qianjinding 千斤顶] [http://www.zcfounder.com/xcdesign 宣传册设计] [http://www.zcfounder.com/fenci 粉刺] [http://www.zcfounder.com/cuochuang 痤疮]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/qchdou 青春痘] 

[http://www.zcfounder.com/mshpx 美术培训]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/mgjx 木工机械] 

[http://www.zcfounder.com/xfqc 消防器材] [http://www.zcfounder.com/shuichuli 水处理] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [http://www.zcfounder.com/craft 工艺品]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/jieneng 节能] 

[http://www.zcfounder.com/syyq 试验仪器]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/fxyq 分析仪器] 

[http://www.zcfounder.com/baolingqiu 保龄球] [http://www.zcfounder.com/chuchen 除尘]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/golf 高尔夫] 

[http://www.zcfounder.com/club 健身俱乐部] [http://www.zcfounder.com/zhusuji 注塑机]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/chuimoji 吹膜机]

[http://www.zcfounder.com/bianpingyou 扁平疣] [http://www.zcfounder.com/hhban 黄褐斑] [http://www.zcfounder.com/shizhen 湿疹] [http://www.zcfounder.com/niupixuan 牛皮癣] [http://www.zcfounder.com/pifubing 皮肤病] [http://www.zcfounder.com/youyuan 幼儿园]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/mote 模特]
 [http://www.zcfounder.com/dljz 代理记帐]

[http://www.zcfounder.com/fangfushe 防辐射] [http://www.zcfounder.com/fypx 法语培训] [http://www.zcfounder.com/jiaju 家具]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/spzst 视频展示台]
 [http://www.zcfounder.com/mada 马达] 

[http://www.zcfounder.com/qdmada 气动马达] [http://www.zcfounder.com/safety 保险柜] [http://www.zcfounder.com/sljx 塑料机械]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/penmaji 喷码机] 

[http://www.zcfounder.com/ganbing 肝病]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/tnb 糖尿病] 

[http://www.zcfounder.com/ysgs 印刷公司] [http://www.zcfounder.com/ysjx 印刷机械] [http://www.zcfounder.com/zhq 转换器] [http://www.zcfounder.com/jpyd 机票预订] [http://www.zcfounder.com/guolu 锅炉] [http://www.zcfounder.com/mbapx MBA培训] [http://www.zcfounder.com/jhj 交换机] [http://www.zcfounder.com/mask 面膜] [http://www.zcfounder.com/spring 弹簧]

 [http://www.zcfounder.com/bzsj 包装设计]
 [http://www.zcfounder.com/hbsj 海报设计]

[http://www.zcfounder.com/kaiguan 开关] [http://www.zcfounder.com/bmkg 薄膜开关] [http://www.zcfounder.com/videsign VI设计] [http://wpromotion.51.net/bregis/ 商标注册] [http://wpromotion.51.net/caigang/ 彩钢] [http://wpromotion.51.net/cping/ 草坪] [http://wpromotion.51.net/design 平面设计] [http://wpromotion.51.net/fangwei/ 防伪] [http://wpromotion.51.net/giftco/ 礼品公司] [http://wpromotion.51.net/biaozhisheji 标志设计] [http://wpromotion.51.net/glasses/ 验光配镜] [http://wpromotion.51.net/gps/ wiki:GPS] [http://wpromotion.51.net/jiayimin/ 加拿大移民] [http://wpromotion.51.net/kouqang/ 口腔门诊] [http://wpromotion.51.net/law/ 律师事务所] [http://wpromotion.51.net/ledscreen/ LED大屏幕] [http://wpromotion.51.net/lxym/ 留学移民] [http://wpromotion.51.net/patent/ 专利注册] [http://wpromotion.51.net/rentcar 汽车租赁] [http://wpromotion.51.net/sifa/ 司法考试] [http://wpromotion.51.net/ticket/ 打折机票] [http://wpromotion.51.net/transcompany/ 翻译公司] [http://wpromotion.51.net/vod vod] [http://wpromotion.51.net/yiminnew/ 新西兰移民] [http://wpromotion.51.net/yujia/ 瑜珈] [http://wpromotion.51.net/zhanlan/ 展览] [http://wpromotion.51.net/yuanlin 园林机械] [http://wpromotion.51.net/office/ 办公设备] [http://wpromotion.51.net/office1/ 办公用品] [http://wpromotion.51.net/qichepeijian 汽车配件] [http://wpromotion.51.net/dianzibaiban 电子白板] [http://wpromotion.51.net/zichanpinggu 资产评估] [http://wpromotion.51.net/yikatong 一卡通] [http://wpromotion.51.net/guangduanji 光端机] [http://wpromotion.51.net/minjin 门禁] [http://wpromotion.51.net/jiankong 监控] [http://wpromotion.51.net/qianjinding 千斤顶] [http://wpromotion.51.net/xcdesign 宣传册设计] [http://wpromotion.51.net/fenci 粉刺] [http://wpromotion.51.net/cuochuang 痤疮] [http://wpromotion.51.net/qchdou 青春痘] [http://wpromotion.51.net/mshpx 美术培训] [http://wpromotion.51.net/mgjx 木工机械] [http://wpromotion.51.net/xfqc 消防器材] [http://wpromotion.51.net/shuichuli 水处理] [http://wpromotion.51.net/craft 工艺品] [http://wpromotion.51.net/jieneng 节能] [http://wpromotion.51.net/syyq 试验仪器] [http://wpromotion.51.net/fxyq 分析仪器] [http://wpromotion.51.net/baolingqiu 保龄球] [http://wpromotion.51.net/chuchen 除尘] [http://wpromotion.51.net/golf 高尔夫] [http://wpromotion.51.net/club 健身俱乐部] [http://wpromotion.51.net/zhusuji 注塑机] [http://wpromotion.51.net/chuimoji 吹膜机] [http://wpromotion.51.net/rzcping 人造草坪] [http://wpromotion.51.net/patent 专利注册] [http://wpromotion.51.net/youyuan 幼儿园] [http://wpromotion.51.net/mote 模特] [http://wpromotion.51.net/dljz 代理记帐] [http://wpromotion.51.net/fangfushe 防辐射] [http://wpromotion.51.net/fypx 法语培训] [http://wpromotion.51.net/jiaju 家具] [http://wpromotion.51.net/spzst 视频展示台] [http://wpromotion.51.net/mada 马达] [http://wpromotion.51.net/qdmada 气动马达] [http://wpromotion.51.net/safety 保险柜] [http://wpromotion.51.net/sljx 塑料机械] [http://wpromotion.51.net/penmaji 喷码机] [http://wpromotion.51.net/ganbing 肝病] [http://wpromotion.51.net/tnb 糖尿病] [http://wpromotion.51.net/ysgs 印刷公司] [http://wpromotion.51.net/ysjx 印刷机械] [http://wpromotion.51.net/zhq 转换器] [http://wpromotion.51.net/jpyd 机票预订] [http://wpromotion.51.net/guolu 锅炉] [http://wpromotion.51.net/mbapx MBA培训] [http://wpromotion.51.net/jhj 交换机] [http://wpromotion.51.net/mask 面膜] [http://wpromotion.51.net/spring 弹簧] [http://wpromotion.51.net/bzsj 包装设计] [http://wpromotion.51.net/hbsj 海报设计] [http://wpromotion.51.net/kaiguan 开关] [http://wpromotion.51.net/bmkg 薄膜开关] [http://wpromotion.51.net/videsign VI设计] [http://andy197819.51.net/bregis/ 商标注册] [http://andy197819.51.net/caigang/ 彩钢] [http://andy197819.51.net/cping/ 草坪] [http://andy197819.51.net/design 平面设计] [http://andy197819.51.net/fangwei/ 防伪] [http://andy197819.51.net/giftco/ 礼品公司] [http://andy197819.51.net/glasses/ 验光配镜] [http://andy197819.51.net/gps/ wiki:GPS] [http://andy197819.51.net/jiayimin/ 加拿大移民] [http://andy197819.51.net/kouqang/ 口腔门诊] [http://andy197819.51.net/law/ 律师事务所] [http://andy197819.51.net/ledscreen/ LED大屏幕] [http://andy197819.51.net/lxym/ 留学移民] [http://andy197819.51.net/patent/ 专利注册] [http://andy197819.51.net/rentcar 汽车租赁] [http://andy197819.51.net/sifa/ 司法考试] [http://andy197819.51.net/ticket/ 打折机票] [http://andy197819.51.net/transcompany/ 翻译公司] [http://andy197819.51.net/vod vod] [http://andy197819.51.net/yiminnew/ 新西兰移民] [http://andy197819.51.net/yujia/ 瑜珈] [http://andy197819.51.net/zhanlan/ 展览] [http://andy197819.51.net/yuanlin 园林机械] [http://andy197819.51.net/office/ 办公设备] [http://andy197819.51.net/office1/ 办公用品] [http://andy197819.51.net/qichepeijian 汽车配件] [http://andy197819.51.net/dianzibaiban 电子白板] [http://andy197819.51.net/zichanpinggu 资产评估] [http://andy197819.51.net/yikatong 一卡通] [http://andy197819.51.net/guangduanji 光端机] [http://andy197819.51.net/minjin 门禁] [http://andy197819.51.net/jiankong 监控] [http://andy197819.51.net/qianjinding 千斤顶] [http://andy197819.51.net/xcdesign 宣传册设计] [http://andy197819.51.net/fenci 粉刺] [http://andy197819.51.net/cuochuang 痤疮] [http://andy197819.51.net/qchdou 青春痘] [http://andy197819.51.net/mshpx 美术培训] [http://andy197819.51.net/mgjx 木工机械] [http://andy197819.51.net/xfqc 消防器材] [http://andy197819.51.net/shuichuli 水处理] [http://andy197819.51.net/craft 工艺品] [http://andy197819.51.net/jieneng 节能] [http://andy197819.51.net/syyq 试验仪器] [http://andy197819.51.net/fxyq 分析仪器] [http://andy197819.51.net/baolingqiu 保龄球] [http://andy197819.51.net/chuchen 除尘] [http://andy197819.51.net/golf 高尔夫] [http://andy197819.51.net/club 健身俱乐部] [http://andy197819.51.net/zhusuji 注塑机] [http://andy197819.51.net/chuimoji 吹膜机] [http://andy197819.51.net/youyuan 幼儿园] [http://andy197819.51.net/mote 模特] [http://andy197819.51.net/dljz 代理记帐] [http://andy197819.51.net/fangfushe 防辐射] [http://andy197819.51.net/fypx 法语培训] [http://andy197819.51.net/jiaju 家具] [http://andy197819.51.net/spzst 视频展示台] [http://andy197819.51.net/mada 马达] [http://andy197819.51.net/qdmada 气动马达] [http://andy197819.51.net/safety 保险柜] [http://andy197819.51.net/sljx 塑料机械] [http://andy197819.51.net/penmaji 喷码机] [http://andy197819.51.net/ganbing 肝病] [http://andy197819.51.net/tnb 糖尿病] [http://andy197819.51.net/ysgs 印刷公司] [http://andy197819.51.net/ysjx 印刷机械] [http://andy197819.51.net/zhq 转换器] [http://andy197819.51.net/jpyd 机票预订] [http://andy197819.51.net/guolu 锅炉] [http://andy197819.51.net/mbapx MBA培训] [http://andy197819.51.net/jhj 交换机] [http://andy197819.51.net/mask 面膜] [http://andy197819.51.net/spring 弹簧] [http://andy197819.51.net/bzsj 包装设计] [http://andy197819.51.net/hbsj 海报设计] [http://andy197819.51.net/kaiguan 开关] [http://andy197819.51.net/bmkg 薄膜开关] [http://andy197819.51.net/videsign VI设计] [http://andy197819.51.net/rzcping 人造草坪] [http://andy197819.51.net/patent 专利注册] [http://andy197819.51.net/biaozhisheji 标志设计] [http://wpromotion.51.net/bianpingyou 扁平疣] [http://wpromotion.51.net/hhban 黄褐斑] [http://wpromotion.51.net/shizhen 湿疹] [http://wpromotion.51.net/niupixuan 牛皮癣] [http://wpromotion.51.net/pifubing 皮肤病] [http://andy197819.51.net/bianpingyou 扁平疣] [http://andy197819.51.net/hhban 黄褐斑] [http://andy197819.51.net/shizhen 湿疹] [http://andy197819.51.net/niupixuan 牛皮癣] [http://andy197819.51.net/pifubing 皮肤病] http://wikira.bbclone.de/index.php?page=carlshao http://wikira.bbclone.de/index.php?page=Weroom http://snblog.pulver.com/2003/archives/000035.html http://tavi.debian.org.tw/index.php?page=carlshao http://www.kwiki.org/index.cgi?action=revisions&page_name=carlshao&revision_id=-1 http://www.civicactions.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Carl http://pythonmac.org/wiki/UserPreferences http://www.eehoo.net/notebook/show.asp?id=180

The goal of this suite of pages is to gather the collective wisdom of Debian developers on new release methodologies for Debian, with an aim toward reversing the current trend of it taking longer and longer for us to make a release.

This set of pages is being developed because while plenty of people have made various suggestions on debian-devel, this has only resulted in threads with hundreds of messages, with debate being more rational in some places than others.

Feel free to add new pages, or add new arguments pro or con to a page, but do respect the opinions of others and bear in mind that the idea is to arrive at a set of well specified proposals for how Debian can release, and not to promote your idea over all others. If your opinion does not represent the consensus of a pro or con for a release method, add it as a comment with your name on it.

The list of release proposals:

• ReleaseWhenReady

• ?DebianInstallerReleasesAreDebianReleases

• DropStableJustUseTesting

• ReleaseOnlyCore

• LetUbuntuReleaseForUs

• ReleasePerSubsystem

• DropProblemPackages

• FixedReleaseDate

• ["NMUMore"]

• UnstableFreezeUntilStable

• PartialReleasesFullRelease

• AddAnotherRepositoryBetweenUnstableAndTesting

• ["PermitFixingRCBugsInStableAndReleaseReallyStableAfterSometime"]
• ["ReleaseCDDs"]

• LookingAtHistory

• ReleaseByArchitecture

• FormaliseBackports

• MotivateDevelopers

• RequireCoMaintainersOnAllPackages

• SubProjectPerStabilityLevel

• TwoReleases

Besides a new release process, it is also very interesting to figure out why the current process scales so badly. Where are the bottlenecks and what can we do about them?

• ReleaseTeamOverloaded

• FtpMasterOverloaded

• SecurityTeam

• ?InfrastructureOverloaded

• DevelopersTooLame

• ExperimentalHardToUse

• ?InstallerNotReady

• UnnecessaryProcessDelays

• TranslationTeamsOverloaded

• WhateverHappenedToTesting

• DebianNotHierarchicalEnough

• TooManyArchitectures

• DevelopersSatisfiedByUsingUnstable

• DevelopersIgnorant

This is an evolving document -- refer to RecentChanges to find newly updated pages.

And while we are at it here is a list of solutions what to do with the ideas and proposals above:

• ?JustIgnoreAndContinueAsAlways

• ["LetTheDPLDecide"]
• ["MakeGR"]

• I would like to also propose a goal based release: To have an actual goal for that round of Debian development. This current release, for the end user, appears to be a software update. Not a very big change in policy. It might be worthwhile to set goals for what people would like to see changed, or advanced, then decide on a good time frame so everyone is on the same page, working toward the same goal, and knowing where they stand. This appears to work pretty well for kde.

- Christain (Debian user)

• We should also be looking heavily at how a release (or lack thereof) affects Debian users. After all, the purpose of Debian is not to release - it's to meet the needs of its users, and releases are just one way of doing that. Personally, I understand the logic and reasoning behind the long release intervals, and not releasing until it's ready, and I really appreciate the stability of Debian which is the result of some hard work by its developers. I don't really want to sacrifice or compromise that stability in any way. By the same token, I occasionally have the need for a package or set of packages that is updated beyond what is available in stable. This leaves me with the option of manually downloading/compiling/installing and somewhat messing with the beauty of the Debian package system in the process, or simply upgrading to and running unstable/testing/whatever. I've always maintained that Debian's unstable is just as stable as everyone else's stable, so when I make the choice to go with something other than stable, I realize there may be some slight problems I'll need to work around, but my main concern is the lack of security patches. With everything I do, I just don't have enough time to stay on top of every single package out there I happen to need on a particular install - that's where I really depend on the Debian security team. What would help me as a Debian user is if we could use the above proposals to speed up the release process where we can without cutting corners on the quality of releases while at the same time finding a way in part or in whole to offer some security support for future versions (unstable, testing, etc.) so that those of us who do decide to make the move away from stable on a particular install aren't completely left out in the cold (from a security perspective).

-- Gene (Debian User)