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Debian on mobile devices
Please add some valuable information to help this project move forward.
This page is about tracking every initiative to fully or partially install the system on mobile platforms:
- Debian on mobile devices
- Software Layers
- Running original OSs:
- Other Native Linux non-Android Ports to Android Phones:
- Processor Technologies
- Cell Phone Companies
- Hardware & Smartphone Manufacturers product models/names
- Related Websites
- See Also
Debian is the universal operating system. Thus, it needs to run on mobile devices. This wiki page is a tool to help bring Debian to mobile platforms.
It would be great if Debian could run on many kinds of mobile devices: iPhones, Android capable HW, Windows Mobile HW, tablets, etc.
The software should allow dual booting, into both Debian and any software that came with the hardware.
Debian on mobile devices should have GUI capabilities, appropriate to the hardware capabilities.
It would also be great if Debian could run applications written to be native to the original OS for the hardware. This will enable Debian to serve the many people in society who want to easily use those applications.
Debian might benefit from having its own User Interface, or UIs, based on progression from the desktop Debian UIs - ex, GNOME or KDE. It would be great if the GNOME, KDE and other GUI communities could come to agreement on a common UI for Debian, to save unnecessary duplication of development effort, both of the Debian UI, and application software for Debian. Also to save the users from having to learn unnecessary extra UIs.
Related wiki pages
Origin and Purpose
To get this wiki page started, see the original message I sent suggesting this project. It includes some reference URLs, to help seed thinking on Debian on smartphones development.
Many people made useful replies to that email, and it would be great if they would add their suggestions of software components, foundations, and URLs thereof to this page. If we all take a few minutes to make contributions to this page when we have something valuable to add, this page will grow to be a great resource for us all. So, please take a moment to add something valuable to this page right now, or when you have the opportunity.
This page could use contributions like: Links to component software (embeded debian, GRUB, UIs, etc).
Software developers can write software for the many parts of this system and put links on this page to those components.
Writers can produce articles about Debian on smartphones in emails to the relevant Debian mailing lists, blogs, web pages and for the general media.
Artists can create the graphics and multimedia for Debian on smartphones.
Packagers can put it all together so people can download and install it on their smartphones.
Thanks for reading. Thanks for thinking. Thanks for all contributions you make. Let's all work together to enable Debian to fulfil its promise as "The Universal Operating System".
To chat about Debian on mobile devices, please join the #debian-mobile IRC channel on irc.debian.org.
debian-mobile mailing list is intended to be about the various mobile User Interfaces.
other discussions will be appropriate to have on the following lists instead:
Here are some people interested in running Debian on mobile devices.
Openmoko FreeRunner, Samsung Galaxy S I
Linux mainline support for the FR, QtMoko in Debian
Get paid to work towards Debian on Mobile devices :-p
Help with testing
Working Debian on N900 with UMTS/GPRS access
Openmoko FreeRunner, Google Nexus One
Help maintain wiki, file bugs, test new things
Mainline FR support, QtMoko in Debian, Debian on the Nexus One, SHR on a Debian base
Neo FreeRunner * 2, Nokia N9, Nokia N950
Maintain some of the FR stuff, maybe do something to put Debian on N9, etc.
More productized stuff via FSO, oFono etc. packaging to support more phones
Learn software development.
Port low-level stuff to a device.
Package some middleware.
Package a user experience.
Package applications that can deal with small screens and touch input.
Build images for users to flash onto the device.
Get hardware to developers.
At various stages you will need to learn some of the following. This can be done at the same time as working on Debian for smartphones.
- ARM assembly: Linux, bootloaders
- C: Linux, bootloaders, UIs
- make: build systems
- Python: middleware, applications
- Vala: middleware, applications
- Version control:
- git: Linux, middleware, applications
- svn: UI, applications
- bzr: applications
- Compilers: GCC, LLVM, GCC cross-compilers
- Build systems:
- make: almost everything
- autotools: middleware, UI, applications
- cmake: some things
- other: Linux and bootloaders might have custom build systems based on make
- Version control:
Pick a specific device. Get support for it into a bootloader (u-boot/etc), mainline Linux. Ask relevant teams to build linux/bootloader packages that work on your device. Port the debian installer to the device.
This is most of the work. It is important to get your changes into Linux/u-boot mainline otherwise Debian will not be able to support your device since the Linux kernel team for Debian will not add non-mainline drivers/patches to Debian kernels and therefore you won't be able to support Debian on the phone you care about. It will be made easier since the Android drivers probably already exist and can be ported to mainline Linux. Some hardware vendors will be violating the GPL and not releasing drivers/patches. You might be able to get the code by contacting them or getting the SFLC or gplviolations.org involved.
Pick some middleware, join the packaging group for it or package it for Debian and look for some sponsors.
Pick a UI or create a new one, create a team, start packaging it for Debian and look for sponsors.
There are numerous existing FLOSS UXen for smartphones and similar devices. As the universal OS, Debian should aim to support several of these.
Replicant: aiming to remove all the blobs and non-free stuff from Android
GNOME Mobile: seems to be a dead iniative
KDE Plasma Active: not yet available in Debian
DeforaOS: releases Debian packages
QtMoko: distribution based on Debian
PyNeo: distribution based on Debian
Qalee: no Debian packaging effort
QuantumSTEP: no Debian packaging effort
GPE: already in Debian for years. palmtop, no phone component yet, more suitable for stylus based devices.
Tizen: mobile distribution based on EFL, Debian/Ubuntu, backed by Samsung and others
Cordia: mobile distribution based on Mer (RPM), Maemo Hildon stack ported to newer GTK+/etc
Boot to Gecko: Mozilla project to create an web-based OS
Start an index of touch-screen friendly apps and package some of them. Most of them will be ?OpenMoko ones since that was the first free software friendly phone. So read their wiki and related sites a lot.
Talk to the Debian installer, live and CDs teams about building daily, weekly and release images that people can flash onto their phones. This could significantly change the way Debian images are built so it will require a fair bit of discussion first.
If you can get hardware into the hands of kernel developers that would help a lot. You might find some hardware manufacturers who are willing to give out some free samples to developers.
- External projects:
Emdebian: cut down version of Debian for small and embedded devices
FSO: umbrella project for free software on smartphones
Linaro: pushes upstream development on ARM, they work on Linux, GCC and related low-level stuff.
- 3D driver projects:
GRUB u-boot ?OpeniBoot
Cell Phone Network - Phone
Cell Phone Detwork - Data
Running original OSs:
- Android Blackberry iPhone Nokia Palm Windows
Other Native Linux non-Android Ports to Android Phones:
Native Ubuntu on Nexus S
Apparently, Ubuntu can run natively on a Nexus S. Maybe we can learn from this effort and port debian natively to multiple devices:
HTC Dream ( The T-Mobile G1 Phone )
HTC Linux Device List
Cell Phone Companies
- TMobile Verizon
Hardware & Smartphone Manufacturers product models/names
Android ROM developers http://forum.xda-developers.com
Report of booting to a native copy of debian:
Nokia N9: Hardware adaptation and other pointers at Nokia N9 wiki page.
Nokia N900: See pkg-n900 wiki page.
Samsung ROMs http://forum.sdx-developers.com/
Wikipedia Samsung M910 Intercept
How to root Samsung Intercept:
CPU Samsung ?S3C6410 at 800 MHz
Memory 256 MB RAM
Storage 512 MB ROM
Qualcom radio, learned from discussion with Qualcom tech person.
Carriers Sprint, Virgin Mobile (US) Compatible networks CDMA EVDO Rev. 0 (Sprint), CDMA EVDO Rev. A (Virgin Mobile)
Samsung SPH-M910 Intercept Specs http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2383&c=samsung_sph-m910_intercept
Detailed Technical Specifications of Samsung SPH-M910 Intercept http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2383&view=1&c=samsung_sph-m910_intercept
Samsung ?S3C6410 RISC Microprocessor http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a6410&c=samsung_s3c6410
devices based on ?S3C6410 http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster&posted=1&cpu=a6410
Samsung ?S3C6410 RISC Microprocessor Simplified Technical Specifications
Type: ?S3C6410 Manufacturer: Samsung Year Released: 2008 Predecessor: 32bit Samsung ?S3C6400 Characteristics CPU Structure (complexity): RISC Width of Machine Word: 32 bit Primary (RAM) Data bus: 32 bit Instruction Set Supported Instruction Set(s): ARMv6 CPU Core: ARM1176JZF-S Clock Frequencies Recommanded Minimum Clock Frequency: 533 MHz Recommanded Maximum Clock Frequency: 800 MHz Caches Level 1 cache: 16KiB data cache / 16 KiB instruction cache Technology Semiconductor Technology: CMOS Minimum Feature Size: 65 nm Contacts: 424 pins Supply Voltage: 1.1 V Additional Details Special Features: 16/16KB I/D TCM, 2D/3D Graphics Acceleration (OpenGL ES 1.1/2.0), ARM ?TrustZone, AHB/AXI bus, 32 channel DMA controller, Instruction and Data Memory Management Units, 32KB secure boot ROM
Related Page: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productInfo.do?fmly_id=229&partnum=S3C6410
Datasheet Time: Feb 13, 08 18:44:05
Similar to Samsung Moment SPH-M900 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Moment
Samsung SPH-M900 Moment Specs http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2063&c=samsung_sph-m900_moment
Detailed Technical Specifications of Samsung SPH-M900 Moment http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2063&view=1&c=samsung_sph-m900_moment
Samsung Galaxy S 4G Repair Manual http://www.ifixit.com/Device/Samsung_Galaxy_S_4G
Samsung Galaxy S 4G Teardown http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-S-4G-Teardown/4977/1
Nexus S Repair Manual http://www.ifixit.com/Device/Nexus_S
Nexus S Teardown http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus-S-Teardown/4365/1
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Embedded Linux Conference Europe (ELCE) 2011 October 26 - 28 - Prague, Czech Republic http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference-europe
1st Annual Android Builders Summit 2011 April 13 - 14 - San Francisco, CA http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/android-builders-summit
LF315 Android Internals 2011 April 15 - Saturday, April 16, 2011 Cost: $1,150.00 http://training.linuxfoundation.org/courses/android-training-for-developers/android-internals
Linux Embedded Conference, Linux Foundation 2011 April 11 - 13 - San Francisco, CA http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference/schedule
ELC 2011 Presentations http://elinux.org/index.php?title=ELC_2011_Presentations
Hot Multi-OS Switch: How to run Ubuntu, ChromiumOS, Android at the Same Time on an Embedded Device - Grégoire Gentil (Always Innovating) - No pdf yet
Embedded Linux Wiki http://elinux.org/Main_Page
* http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/03/msg01554.html - "Lets start Debian for Android hw phones"
Let's start the "Debian distro for Android capable hardware phones". What are the first steps we can easily take, to get started on this? 1) Talk about how to do it on this email list. 2) Put something on www.debian.org web page about beginning to work on this project. 3) Create a mailing list for "Debian for Android Hw". 4) Send some thoughts in reply to this email, & to the new mailing list. 5) Make a wiki page for "Debian distro for Android capable hardware phones". - http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnHandhelds = My motivation: I got an Android capable smartphone/computer a few months ago. - Samsung Intercept, Virgin Mobil, $200, $25/month includes unlimited internet. Of course, I'd like to get a GNU(Linux) distro on it. So, rather than have to piece together something using CyanogenMod & piece a bunch of aps together, I'd just like to have a KUbuntu version to put on there. - Download the ISO, start, 15 minutes later it's all there with all my familiar desktop aps in smartphone version. So, I figure, first step (before getting my KUbuntu), is there needs to be the Debian for Android Hw smartphones distro, for KUbuntu to build on top of. = Ok, well, there you are, folks. I've done my initial part for the project - suggest it get started. So, can some interested Debian individuals please now step it another step forward? Thanks for all the great Debian stuff! :) ===== References: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnHandhelds http://wiki.debian.org/Handheld http://wiki.debian.org/Hardware http://wiki.debian.org/ - How can open source survive in a post-PC World? http://www.h-online.com/open/features/How-can-open-source-survive-in-a-post-PC-world-1210071.html How can open source survive in a post-PC World? (h-online.com) http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2348907 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_Android_applications http://maniacdev.com/2010/06/35-open-source-iphone-app-store-apps-updated-with-10-new-apps/ Open Source iPhone Apps List – Real App Store Code Examples! http://maniacdev.com/2010/06/35-open-source-iphone-app-store-apps-updated-with-10-new-apps/ - http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29 - Permanent root for the Samsung Intercept http://forum.sdx-developers.com/intercept-development-2-2/sprint-intercept-wfroyo-permanent-root-using-epic-expoit/ [HOWTO] Rooting your Samsung Intercept the Easy Way http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890460 Samsung Intercept > Intercept Android Development http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=b6120fd362a554792ba666425dc5e102&f=901