= Hack call: 14:00 UTC =

	* Update on experiments with systemd-nspawn (Sunil)
		* "container up" similar to "vagrant up"
		* python script
		* much faster and simpler
		* better network then !VirtualBox
		* Replaces vagrant for development in most cases
		* Allows testing, including backports
	* Protected branches on Salsa? (James)
		* anyone with write can force push tags etc. to freedombox-team/freedombox
		* "Developer" can push to master - fine, but shouldn't be able to re-write history
		* ACTION: James to revisit, protect all main branches
		* announce to mailinglist, ensure people know expectations, to manage existing workflows
	* Proposal to restart services/system (James)
		* https://salsa.debian.org/freedombox-team/freedombox/-/issues/654
		* motivation
			* disk space cleanup, aspecial old kernels
			* `needrestart` is widely accepted
		* Sunil's proposal: Automatically restart services, consider automatically restarting system
		* Restart as integrated part of update
		* stappers' proposal: Notify after a restart has occurred
			* njoseph: Restart is not significant enough to show a notification
			* 
	* Network questions on the mailinglist is good thing (stappers)
		* each network question is from a freedombox user
		* tricky ground due the complexity of all the network related stuff
		* roadblock for next level of adoption
		* "reachabilty program"???
		* allready work in progress, improvement idea surely welcome
		* https://salsa.debian.org/freedombox-team/freedombox/-/issues/1531
	* Stable images with freedombox packages installed from buster-backports are being published (Joseph)
		* stable images 1 year old
		* "backports" as solution
		* first set of images are with Debian 10.4 and Freedombox 20.8
		* design idea of explicitly enabling backports https://freedombox.emorrp1.name/plinth/sys/upgrades/ (emorrp1)
			* https://framapic.org/J9Oq3tguGMId/iwJLk1B1aQy8.png
			* In case user wants more packages from backports.
			* Importance of disabled by default in bullseye:
				* Debian default expectations, downgrades not an option
				* User interface doesn't change over stable lifecycle
				* Same experience whether installed immediately after release or 18 months later
				* Fixes should be made available through proposed-updates
			* Benefit of two major exceptions: freedombox and matrix-synapse
				* freedombox: important fixes for buster missed release
				* simplified UI like hiding Advanced Apps
				* matrix-synapse: ecosystem had big break in federation just as buster was released
				* user shouldn't care about backports, developers in better position to judge compatibility concerns
			* ACTION: emorrp1 to raise issue for further discussion/decision
	* Raise concern about directing resources to integrating federated social media servers. I have outlined my “pitch” as an agenda item at the following link and welcome comments: https://discuss.freedombox.org/t/call-saturday-may-9-at-14-00-utc/876/2 (Michael)
		* Federated social networks haven't made great inroads with general population yet.
			* ~4 million users in fediverse
			* Mass adoption only likely on mobile phone platform?
			* P2P mobile better more accessible solution and outside scope of FB
		* No well-maintained packages in Debian yet.
			* https://wiki.debian.org/FediverseTeam
			* Packages tend to have many NodeJS dependencies for web frontends.
				* One idea is to separate backend packaging, users can use mobile apps.
		* Epicyon - low-resource, !ActivityPub server in Python
		* !FreedomBox can help everyone to host their own Fediverse server and set their own policies.
		* !LibreSocial - p2p social network
		* !FreedomBox developers have not been creating too many new packages so far, due to other priorities.
	* Trying to run functional tests on Buildbot (Joseph)
		* selenium to run user GUI actions as functional tests
		* unstable nightly, testing Saturday
		* using buildbot, easier to do periodically than per-MR gitlab-ci integration
	* https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/internet/2020/MiniDebConfOnline
		* should advertise Freedombox there somehow
	* etherpads
		* etherpad-lite has RFP, but node e.g. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=941700
		* bepasty (https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=bepasty)
		* cryptpad ( https://cryptpad.fr/ )
		* gobby  (uses dedicated client, is multiplatform)
			* https://github.com/gobby/gobby/wiki