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Oh I see the [[fr/Shell]]… redirect to english version… great! The information to dash is in english… great! To have an information on dash go to [[DashAsBinSh]] (why anybody go on [[Dash]] ? … ). This wiki is make to english users ? Ok. I don't see how can help the wiki. -- MichelBarret <<DateTime(2009-08-16T17:24:46+0200)>> |
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Debian Wiki
Are you Mad at me ? If you got mad because of some "clean-up" i have made, please :
Undo and do how you feel it would be the best for wiki.debian.org.
Forgive me. I am not doing it because it's funny (trust me, it isn't funny to spend hours removing or merging pages). I'am not willing to bother people (I know that some people spent quite some time writing those pages).
- Read more below to understand why i am doing this.
Some ideas about what Debian Wiki is :
Focus on what's useful to Debian - is the page useful ? is the page related to debian ?
Some ideas about what Debian Wiki isn't:
wiki.d.o isn't www.debian.org/doc/ - avoid duplicating the official documentation
wiki.d.o isn't packages.debian.org - don't just duplicate package description and meta-data here.
wiki.d.o isn't a manpages repository. - don't just duplicate a manpage here
wiki.d.o isn't wikipedia - link to wikipedia, rather duplicating content here (especially for non-debian specific)
wiki.d.o isn't dictionary - don't create a page to merely define a term. link to online dictionary if needed.
wiki.d.o isn't jargon file - same as dictionary and wikipedia above.
Some best practice for wiki editors :
less is more : Perfection is not when there is nothing to add, but when there is nothing to remove. (Antoine de Saint-Exupery). To put it another way, Once you have finished to write a page, it's time to consider to make it shorter
Obsolete content should be 1)Updated 2) Deleted ... or exceptionally, 3)Preserved for Historical purposed (and marked as such). note: oldstable isn't obsolete content, it IS current.
- Subscribe to the page you are interested in.
- recommend the use of proper terms (X11, XWindow and Xorg aren't interchangeable words..)
Hints and tips
Here's the top ten things I do on a system (user preferences):
- Edit ~/.bashrc
Enable export LS_OPTIONS='--color=auto' ; eval "`dircolors`" ; alias ls='ls $LS_OPTIONS'
Enable shell completion, by appending source /etc/bash_completion
Install vim, then enable some options in /etc/vim/vimrc (especially set incsearch, syntax on, and set showmatch. see my .vimrc).
Install mc, screen, tree, xnest, fast-user-switch-applet, iotop, htop
Enable default saved in /boot/grub/menu.lst
Install some mozilla's : web-developer
and some system hints
My log on the Wiki
Here's a very incomplete log of my activities on this wiki :
- 2008-06-07
Ask improvements to manpages.debian.net (supporting manpages names with dash, plus an points).
Then update all pages to use DebianMan Interwiki link.- 2009-04-18
Cleanup CategoryHomepage pages (ensure homepage match the wiki-account's name). ~30 pages. : Cleanup obsolete/oudated pages + fix links . ~100 pages.
- 2009-04-10
Create HowTo/ChangeHostname
- Migrate Grub/*.manpage to upstream.
- 2009-03-26
Wiki was upgraded. Fix { {{{#!/bin/sh } of ~30 pages.
- 2009-03-21
- Wiki was upgraded. Update Debian "official material" banner of ~70 pages.
- Wiki was upgraded. Fix embedded images.
- 2009-03-20
- Wiki was upgraded. Drop old moinmoin Spanish help pages.
- Wiki was upgraded. Update Debian "official material" banner of ~50 pages.
- 2003-03-19
Initial DebianWiki/MigratedToMoinmoin17 page.
- 2009-03-18
Initial Teams/DebianWiki page.
- 2009-03-17
Wiki was upgraded. Fix TableOfContent of ~50 pages
- 2009-03-16
Wiki was upgraded. Adapt some MoinMoin/GeneratePdf
- 2009-02-
Add framebuffer to ScreenShots.
- 2009-02-14
Major rewrite of Java.
- 2009-02-08
- Update supported devices on Lenny
- 2009-02-06
Update pages for Lenny. DeviceDatabase/USB, DeviceDatabase/PCI, DevFAQ, HowToIdentifyADevice/USB,
- 2009-01-25
Minor cleanup of PPP, pppd, wvdial, ifconfig, DialupConf and related pages.
- 2009-01-24
Major improvements of hal
- 2009-01-23
- 2009-01-17
Cleanup (CategoryProposedDeletion).
- 2009-01-17
Proposing a structure for CategoryProprietarySoftware (on debian-www).
- 2009-01-15
testing-proposed-updates patch to fix 510012 .
- 2009-01-12
research to embed images.. which lad to DebianWiki/EditorGuide#screenshots
- 2009-01-12
stable-proposed-updates to fix 511416 and 504562 2009-01-11 :: Create DiscussionsAfterLenny/Sections.
- 2009-01-01
Major rewrite of WindowsEquivalent.
- 2009-01-08
- 2009-01-06
modinfo-devnames script to list supported devices.
- 2009-01-04
- New wiki maintenance/monitoring scripts.
- 2009-01-04
- Cleanup old discussions pages
- 2009-01-04
Start preparing Migration to Lenny's moin 1.7.
- 2009-01-03
New VersionControlSystem, and celanup/rewrite/refactor related pages (git, SVN...)
- 2008-12-14
DebConf9 dates are confirmed
- 2008-12-04
Major rewrite of EtchAndAHalf.
- 2008-11-25
Create DebianWiki/History.
- 2008-11-01
- Cleanup 2008-08-05 ~ 2008-10-24.
- 2008-10-29
Create Firmware page.
- 2008-10-28
Create WiFi/HowToUse page.
- 2008-10-19
Create InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/T60/lenny page.
- 2008-10-19
Create ?Kernel/Oops page.
- 2008-09-13
- Clean-up dozens of pages related to the kernel.
- 2008-09-13
Create/Refactor Modules page.
- 2008-09-01
create ?Schedule page.
- 2008-09-01
Create NewInSqueeze
- 2008-08-25
- Cleanup lots of dummy pages related to packaging.
- 2008-07-16
Rsyslog start user point of view.
- 2008-07-15
create keyring.debian.org (page).
- 2008-07-14
- Templates page cleanup (delete, sync, align to policy...).
Cleanup virtualisation pages (SystemVirtualization, QEMU, VirtualBox, ?Win4Lin, VMware, ?LinuxVserver)
- 2008-07-13
- Create Windows Server Hyper V
- 2008-07-06
cleanup FrontPages (fix links...)
- 2008-06-27
create AptProtocol
- 2008-06-24
create MoinMoin/GeneratePdf
- 2008-06-22
(re-)create NewInEtch
- 2008-06-17
add Debian Installer GUI ScreenShots
- 2008-06-03
create/reorganiseg M68k/* page (see http://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2008/06/msg00001.html debian-68k)
- 2008-05-31
- 2008-05-19
Improve ?DebianLive/HowTo/SmallSizeImage.
- 2008-05-12
create ?sky2 module page.
- 2008-05-07
create pkg/README.DebianHeader, ?pkg/README.DebianTemplate
- 2008-05-06
Update DeviceDatabase/USB, and DeviceDatabase/PCI
- 2008-05-05
Improve ModulesAll (actually list all modules ! ).
- 2008-05-03
create Tftp page.
- 2008-05-01
multiple NewInLenny contributions.
- 2008-04-18
create Hibernation page.
- 2008-04-05
create StableProposedUpdates
- 2008-04-06
create Linda is gone page. + cleanup references to linda.
- 2008-02-27
The very old, and very duplicate wiki structure "DebianWikiTopics" is now gone. Champagne !
- 2008-02-26
- Migrate DebConf/* pages to wiki.debconf.org.
- 2008-02-22
?DebianHosting/Dedibox
- 2008-02-22
- Migrate !DebianWiki/* Discussion to debian-www mailing list.
- 2008-02-22
?DebianHosting/Ovh/RPS
- 2008-01-27
Ask improvements to manpages.debian.net (supporting, http://manpages.debian.net/man/1/bash syntax )
- 2008-01-27
create DEHS.
- 2008-01-23
create ?Grub/Grub2 pages.
- 2008-01-13
create Grub/SplashImage
- 2008-01-13
ModulesAll, major improvement.
- 2008-01-10
- '07 Q4 cleanup.
- 2008-01-07
create DebianWiki/Browsing.
- 2007-12-30
create Opera.
- 2007-12-16
create DeviceDatabase/USB, DeviceDatabase/PCI
- 2007-12-15
create ipw2200
- 2007-12-14
rewrite LSB
- 2007-11-24
create DebianWiki/TranslationNamespace.
- 2007-11-21
InstallingDebianOn : Let me write here what I think about my DebianOn initiative on this wiki (since DebConf7, and I talked to Petter Reinholdtsen +talk1 : It's broken by design : It should be in a database ! (i.e queryable ; statistics ; much easier to report with an assistant, etc.)
- 2007-11-17
create iwlwifi
- 2007-11-10
create ?DebianLive/HowTo/SmallSizeImage
- 2007-11-01
- 2007-10-31
create CategoryPermalink, then tagging many pages.
- 2007-10-23
create rt.debian.org page
- 2007-10-07
DebianWiki pages started.
add GUI to HowToIdentifyADevice/* (thanks to SalokineTerata)
?DebianWiki/WikiVote page started.- 2007-09-30
ModuleAssistant / major improvements.
- 2007-09-27
DebianReleases "child" pages are completed (good enough for now, at least).
- 2007-09-18
Howto make a ScreenShots page.
- 2007-09-16
improve and add links to talks for DebConf*
- 2007-09-08
- converted wiki.debian.net links to wiki.debian.org.
- 2007-09-07
cleanup old ?RemoteWikiLinks (DebianPackage, ?DebianPts, ?DebianPackages, bts )
- 2007-08-14
?InstallingEtchStepByStep project started.
- 2007-08-14
- Glossary started.
I stop updating my log, i think you have the idea : I intend to cleanup wiki.d.o !
- 2007-08-08
what about wiki-pages for packages ? looks like duplicate with packages.debian.org to me. (see ?MetaPackages in http://wiki.debian.org/nanos?action=recall&rev=1 )
- 2007-08-07
Merged "From Windows To Debian" and FromWindowsToDebian (plus related cleanup)
Merged *X_Window_System*
Merged *WindowManager*
Merged *Desktop environment*- 2007-08-06
Prepare the merged ?DotNetFrontPage, ?OldFrontPage to FrontPage
- 2007-08-06
- Major cleanup around "Debian Enterprise" pages.
- 2007-08-05
- 2007-08-05
InterWiki Migration : Cleaning-up "RemoteWikiURL" links from old wiki.d.o (based on kwiki).
RemoteWikiURL were used in http://zwiki.org/ to declare others wiki. (many wiki pages were needed in thoses zwiki days.. deprecated today)- 2007-06-05
- HowToIdentifyADevice pages started
- 2007-05-28
InstallingDebianOn project started.
New wikipages ideas
A page with samples of Debian fonts. (sample text, use Sample_Font_Displays_In_Other_Languages )
Theme
Current wiki.d.o layout (theme) isn't very nice, still Moinmoin can be nice. some ideas ThemeMarket, ScreenShots:
http://wiki.winehq.org/ (I'm not fan of the colors though)
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/TitleIndex This one is very clean
http://wiki.ethereal.com/TitleIndex some good ideas here too
More on http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:TitleIndex+-inurl:trac.
Also, Apache.org is caching their wiki pages.
My Todo for Debian
Rewrite DebianWiki Privacy policy, based on http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/
- Consistency in the way "Recommends" are installed: DI don't install "Recommends", but apt-get and aptitude don't.
Document html2wiki and libhtml-wikiconverter-moinmoin-perl somewhere on the wiki,
Visitors comments
Why did you delete the dash page ? I don't understand why speak of bash in a lot of pages and we don't speak of dash (DashAsBinSh sell nothing about dash why use it ? and we keep a page as DebianEeePC/Dash). I'm think is really not until to make an wiki if we don't speak before an delete and if user have more information on wikipedia or with search by google. What is the advantage of wiki debian on the wikipedia or other wiki by exemple ? If the information of this page dash is sufficient why make a wiki ? If the work is create page to make a link to packages.debian.org the administrator can create a script. I can't understand why destroy the page on dash to this limite to dashasbinsh. Is not my concept of the work and I don't see a page who explain the rules of this wiki. You (this wiki) have don't need me to exist, it's really dommage. (I wait your answer). -- MichelBarret
- Hello, I merely moved the content of the page to a different page (restructure). The reason is that most of the documentation related to a package (dash) should be inside the package (I still hope that Debian publishes on the web all the documentation included inside package...).
For example, the page Bash won't ever contain much more information than what it does currently: There are many existing documentation about bash and POSIX shells out there, we don't need to create our own. Regarding generic information about Bash/Dash... wikipedia is doing a very good job. IMHO, the Bash page should be removed.
However, we need to provide information that are specific to Debian. In this case, we need to tell the user which shell to choose and when. We need to explain how to change them. That's why I have developed the page Shell, using and expanding your contribution.
> If the information of this page dash is sufficient why make a wiki ? => That's the point. The wiki should provide the information that's doesn't exist elsewhere.
> You (this wiki) have don't need me to exist, it's really dommage. => I am not sure I understand what you mean. Your contribution is valuable, I just moved.
-- FranklinPiat 2009-08-16 13:35:01
Oh I see the fr/Shell… redirect to english version… great! The information to dash is in english… great! To have an information on dash go to DashAsBinSh (why anybody go on Dash ? … ). This wiki is make to english users ? Ok. I don't see how can help the wiki.
-- MichelBarret 2009-08-16 15:24:46
add yours here.
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