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== Q. Where can I download kFreeBSD? ==

A. http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/install-cd/
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== Q. Where can I download kFreeBSD? ==

A. http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/install-cd/

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Contents

  1. Basic questions
    1. Q. What does the 'k' in "kFreeBSD" stand for?
    2. Q. What is the point of Debian GNU/kFreeBSD?
    3. Q. What version of kFreeBSD is supported?
    4. Q. Which Debian releases are available?
    5. Q. Which mirrors offer Debian GNU/kFreeBSD?
    6. Q. Can I run Debian GNU/kFreeBSD in a chroot under FreeBSD?
    7. Q. Can I share a swap partition between GNU/Linux and GNU/kFreeBSD?
    8. Q. Can I share partitions between GNU/Linux and GNU/kFreeBSD?
    9. Q. What's the status of amd64 support?
    10. Q. Is there any way to upgrade to Debian-*bsd an existing, running FreeBSD installation (whether it makes sense or not)
    11. Q. Can *.deb packages co-exist with classical BSD ports?
    12. Q. Are the *.deb packages for *bsd handled the same old way they did on Linux, or do they simply use the /usr/local filesystem?
    13. Q. What about some specs I once read about leaving the use of /usr/local to the system administrator? (Maybe these are concerning only to Linux...)
    14. Q. Are there any plans to support alternate CPU instruction sets, e.g. ARM, PPC or Sparc64?
  2. Using Debian GNU/kFreeBSD
    1. Q. Where can I download kFreeBSD?
    2. Q. How do I configure/enable sound?
    3. Q. Wireless?
    4. Q. How can I burn CD-ROMs?
    5. Q. apt-get complains that it can't verify binaries. I installed gnupg but the errors persist.
    6. Q. I just installed Debian GNU/kFreeBSD. Is there anything I can do to help making it more popular?
    7. Q. Is there ZFS support?
  3. Development questions
    1. Q. Where can I check buildd logs for a particular package on kfreebsd-i386?
    2. Q. Where can I check buildd logs for a particular package on kfreebsd-amd64?
    3. Q. I'm a Debian maintainer. Is there any machine running GNU/kFreeBSD I can have access to?
    4. Q. How do packages move out of ''unreleased''?
    5. Q. Do I have the option of which libc to use?
    6. Q. Why was the choice made to use glibc?
  4. Unanswered questions
    1. Q. Is anyone running this in production?
    2. Q. Is there any documentation available?
    3. Q. What license is kFreeBSD released under?
    4. Q. Can I run this as a Xen DomU?
    5. Q. Are there any benchmarks available?
    6. Q. What hardware does this support?
    7. Q. Are there any repositories for the non-free stuff that was taken out?
    8. Q. How stable is kFreeBSD?
    9. Q. How do you support GPL-licensed file systems?

Basic questions

Q. What does the 'k' in "kFreeBSD" stand for?

A. It's an abbreviation. It stands for "kernel of". Hence "kFreeBSD" means "kernel of FreeBSD", and "GNU/kFreeBSD" means "GNU with kernel of FreeBSD".

Q. What is the point of Debian GNU/kFreeBSD?

A. This answer has its own wiki page, see Debian GNU/kFreeBSD why.

Q. What version of kFreeBSD is supported?

A. The latest GNU/kFreeBSD install CD is based on the 7.1 kernel, see for details. The older one is based on the 6.3 kernel.

Q. Which Debian releases are available?

A. Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is available in the official Debian archive as unstable and testing, i.e. the sources.list entries are identical to any other machine running Sid or Squeeze. Testing currently misses only the Contents lists. Daily snapshots of D-I images are available at http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/.

You may add the previous debian-ports.org APT unstable/experimental/unreleased (no testing) repositories to your sources.list to be able to install packages which have not yet build for the official archives. Be aware that those packages are probably out-of-date. Here are the lines for the sources.list:

deb http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian unstable main
deb http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian experimental main
deb http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian unreleased main

unreleased are unstable packages which had to be patched for kfreebsd.

There are still also lenny-based snapshots of the GNU/kFreeBSD archive. Just use the install CD from Jan 2009 and put the following lines into your /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian-snapshot/lenny unstable main
deb http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian-snapshot/lenny unreleased main

Note: You can also add following lines, to get i.e. gcc-doc available

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian dists/lenny/main/binary-i386/
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian dists/lenny/contrib/binary-i386/
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian dists/lenny/non-free/binary-i386/

Q. Which mirrors offer Debian GNU/kFreeBSD?

A. See ?DebianPorts/Mirrors.

Q. Can I run Debian GNU/kFreeBSD in a chroot under FreeBSD?

A. Yes, but it won't work perfectly unless you apply some kernel patches. You can get them from the Debian kfreebsd-7 source package, but it is up to you to find out and decide which ones you need. We recommend to use a Debian kernel for running Debian GNU/kFreeBSD userland. In case something fails, you're on your own.

Q. Can I share a swap partition between GNU/Linux and GNU/kFreeBSD?

A. Yes, but it's not recommended. See http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+FreeBSD-3.html for details on how to proceed. Also note that Linux tends to save suspend-to-disk data to the swap partition, which makes sharing swap less attractive.

Q. Can I share partitions between GNU/Linux and GNU/kFreeBSD?

A. Yes, but you must use ext2fs. When creating the filesystem, pass "-O none" to mke2fs for best results. As for other file systems:

  • For ufs (either 1 or 2), it's only supported readonly by Linux. Write support is highly experimental and is likely to cause panics.
  • For ext3fs, kFreeBSD can only access it in readonly mode.
  • For reiserfs, readonly support has been added to kfreebsd 6.x (see 335019).

  • For xfs, readonly support has been added to kfreebsd 7.x (see 335020 for details). Write support is also planned.

Q. What's the status of amd64 support?

A. It is only slightly behind the i386 one. You're welcome to try it out, and help is appreciated in debugging and cleaning it up. Also, if you want to donate hardware for that purpose please let us know.

Q. Is there any way to upgrade to Debian-*bsd an existing, running FreeBSD installation (whether it makes sense or not)

A. I am unsure about this. You can prepare a filesystem on a different partition/slice and use chroot to install the basic files. Look inside the latest ISO at http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/install-cd/, there is base/base.tgz inside install.iso. Unpack it into the created chroot. But at least multi-threaded programs will not work under pristine FreeBSD kernel.

Q. Can *.deb packages co-exist with classical BSD ports?

A. It is not good idea. Please use a chroot for things like this.

Q. Are the *.deb packages for *bsd handled the same old way they did on Linux, or do they simply use the /usr/local filesystem?

A. In the same way as on any other Debian system -- the usual prefix is /usr.

Q. What about some specs I once read about leaving the use of /usr/local to the system administrator? (Maybe these are concerning only to Linux...)

A. There are (almost) no files from any *.deb in /usr/local/. It is really left for local system administrator.

Q. Are there any plans to support alternate CPU instruction sets, e.g. ARM, PPC or Sparc64?

A. Not yet.

Using Debian GNU/kFreeBSD

Q. Where can I download kFreeBSD?

A. http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/install-cd/

Q. How do I configure/enable sound?

A. You have to load the proper kernel sound driver(s) using the kldload command. This works for me (SiS AC'97 sound controller):

kldload snd_csa
kldload snd_driver

Q. Wireless?

A. Yes, but we don't have the tools to scan for networks yet. If you know the ssid beforehand, the following stanza in /etc/network/interfaces should work:

auto ${if}
iface ${if} inet dhcp
     pre-up ifconfig ${if} ssid ${my_ssid}

Q. How can I burn CD-ROMs?

A. Nothing special here, just use wodim:

apt-get install wodim
wodim foo.iso

Q. apt-get complains that it can't verify binaries. I installed gnupg but the errors persist.

A. You probably don't have the debian-ports archive key imported. Try:

gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 43229C06 && gpg --export 43229C06 | sudo apt-key add -

Q. I just installed Debian GNU/kFreeBSD. Is there anything I can do to help making it more popular?

A. Yes! You can install/enable popularity-contest (see http://popcon.debian.org/) to increase our user count. Also you can register yourself as Debian GNU/kFreeBSD user in http://buildd.net/cgi/archvote.phtml. You might also want to tell us how did you hear about Debian GNU/kFreeBSD in this poll. And of course, you can tell all your friends about it. =)

Finally, you can install the "bsdstats" script to record your Debian GNU/kFreeBSD installation at bsdstats.org. You need to install the following packages for the script to work:

apt-get install netcat mksh sharutils openssl bind9-host

Then, you can simply run the script manually via "mksh bsdstats", and/or via a cron-job (weekly, for example).

Q. Is there ZFS support?

A: The FreeBSD kernel 8.0 has ZFS support, but the userland utilities are still missing in Debian GNU/kFreeBSD.

Development questions

Q. Where can I check buildd logs for a particular package on kfreebsd-i386?

A. http://unstable.buildd.net/index-kfreebsd-i386.html and http://buildd.debian-ports.org/.

Q. Where can I check buildd logs for a particular package on kfreebsd-amd64?

A. http://unstable.buildd.net/index-kfreebsd-amd64.html and http://buildd.debian-ports.org/.

Q. I'm a Debian maintainer. Is there any machine running GNU/kFreeBSD I can have access to?

A. Yes, see http://io.debian.net/ and http://asdfasdf.debian.net/.

Q. How do packages move out of ''unreleased''?

  • Either a newer version appears in unstable, then the old one gets obsoleted;

  • Or a list can be sent to ftpmaster@debian-ports.org , so that they run the appropriate command on them.

Q. Do I have the option of which libc to use?

A. No.

Q. Why was the choice made to use glibc?

A. Because otherwise far more packages would need patches to build on kfreebsd. So most of the work is in one package, the libc. The currently no more active Debian GNU/NetBSD port tried to use the BSD libc.

Unanswered questions

Q. Is anyone running this in production?

Q. Is there any documentation available?

Q. What license is kFreeBSD released under?

Q. Can I run this as a Xen DomU?

Q. Are there any benchmarks available?

Q. What hardware does this support?

Q. Are there any repositories for the non-free stuff that was taken out?

Q. How stable is kFreeBSD?

Q. How do you support GPL-licensed file systems?