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[[Debian]] > Debian GNU/Hurd [[Debian]] > [[Debian_GNU|Debian GNU]] > Debian GNU/Hurd
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''Debian GNU/Hurd'' is an operating system from Debian, but which uses [[http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/|GNU Hurd]], which a set of servers, running on top of the GNU Mach microkernel instead of the kernel named ''Linux'' (thus the name Debian GNU/Hurd). Some day, most applications will exist both in ''Debian GNU/Hurd'' and in ''[[DebianGnuLinux|Debian GNU/Linux]]''. ''Debian GNU/Hurd'' is an operating system from Debian, but which uses [[http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/|GNU Hurd]], which is a set of servers, running on top of the GNU Mach microkernel instead of the kernel named ''Linux'' (thus the name Debian GNU/Hurd). Some day, most applications will exist both in ''Debian GNU/Hurd'' and in ''[[DebianGnuLinux|Debian GNU/Linux]]''.
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 * [[TheHurd]] page. (Merge?)
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 * IRC channel: [[irc://irc.freenode.net/hurd|#hurd on irc.freenode.net]] (not irc.debian.org)  * [[http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/07/msg00002.html|Last bits from the project]]

 * IRC channel: http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/irc.html
  * [[irc://irc.freenode.net/hurd|#hurd]] on irc.freenode.net
  * [[irc://irc.debian.org/debian-hurd|#debian-hurd]] on irc.debian.org

== Goals for releasing in wheezy ==

 * buildd
  * security
  * DSA
 * proper dhcp support in installed system
  * use ifup/ifdown instead of translators entry?
 * packages in debian-ports (those marked with <!> need to be integrated in the main archive):
  * (hurd-any) cardmgr-gnumach
   * wifi, can live without
   * postpone
  * (hurd-any) console-driver-xkb
   * we should probably just integrate it in the hurd package
   * See the concerns on the mailing list archive (bug-hurd, "XKB's keymaps for the Hurd console")
   * can postpone
  * (hurd-any) cvsfs
   * ITP: DebianBug:669647
  * (hurd-any) gopherfs
   * ITP: DebianBug:669648
  * (./) grub2, NMUed
   * DebianBug:670069, DebianBug:634799, DebianBug:670186, DebianBug:670189, parted partition patch being discussed with upstream
  * <!> icon, to remove
   * DebianBug:654381 still pending
   * for lyx.
   * -k option issue fixed by exec_file_name patch in libc.
  * (./) ifupdown, to remove
   * DONE
  * <!> isc-dhcp
   * DebianBug:616290
   * Being Discussed directly with upstream, upstream patch available
   * Maintainer wants patch really applied upstream before adding it to debian.
   * patch applied upstream for newer version
  * <!> libpciaccess
   * DebianBug:675289
  * (./) libusb, to remove
  * (./) lockdev, NMUed
   * DebianBug:668951
  * (hurd-any) netio
   * ITP: DebianBug:669652
  * (./) parted, NMUed
   * DebianBug:669936
  * (./) psmisc, to remove
   * DebianBug:673485
  * (hurd-any) random-egd
   * make it an alternative to Marcus' C implementation
   * can live without
   * can postpone
  * (./) screen, to remove
   * trivial fix on DebianBug:522689 , fixed in experimental
  * (hurd-any) smbfs
   * ITP: DebianBug:669653
  * (hurd-any) tarfs
   * ITP: DebianBug:669654
  * (hurd-any) wireless-tools-gnumach
   * just for wifi, can live without
   * postpone
 * various packages in debian-ports, but not a priority
  * hyperestraier DebianBug:558586
  * premake DebianBug:599789
  * vnc4 DebianBug:610852
  * sendmail DebianBug:608525
 * Be able to install at least the base from official mirror (now just missing dhcp)
 * (./) Integrate DDE to get nowadays' network support.
 * Get Xorg + gnome/kde/xfce (xfce should work, kde is missing working dbus (due to local socket auth and bugs in select() cornercases)) + some webbrowser working (iceweasel 9 works, though not https).
 * (./) Fix ext2fs uncleanness at reboot [[http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/sync_but_still_unclean_filesystem.html]]
 * Switch to plain sysv startup?
 * (./) Enable console by default? (we now have proper kernel message relaying)
 * fix "su" to root discrepancy (PATH does not include sbin etc.), apparently simply because shadow's su vs coreutils' su. Also see [[http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.utilities.util-linux-ng/6488]]...
 * Good archive coverage.
  * We're at 76%, kfreebsd was at 85% when it entered wheezy. Although probably not reachable, we can probably do better with
   * mono
   * fpc
 * Fix at least the required, important and standard packages from http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/out_of_date.txt
 * Try to fix the top of http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/graph-total-top.txt

== Goals for later ==

 * IPv6 support in d-i (after it is settled for linux).
 * upgrade libfuse compatibility to >= 2.6.5, with fuse_lowlevel.h
 * add cpuid-based autoloading of libc0.3-i686
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 * --( [[http://debian-hurd.alioth.debian.org/porting/|Basic porting information]] )--  * --( [[http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-devel-debian|Basic porting information]] )--
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 * --( [[http://debian-hurd.alioth.debian.org/patches/|Our patches directory]] )--  * --( [[http://alioth.debian.org/tracker/?atid=410472&group_id=30628&func=browse|Our patches directory]] )--
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 * [[http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=hurd;users=debian-hurd@lists.debian.org;pri0=pending:pending,forwarded,pending-fixed,fixed;ttl0=Outstanding,Forwarded,Pending%20Upload,Fixed%20in%20NMU;pri1=pending%3dpending%2btag%3dwontfix,pending%3dpending%2btag%3dmoreinfo,pending%3dpending%2btag%3dpatch,pending%3dpending%2btag%3dconfirmed,pending%3dpending;ttl1=Will%20Not%20Fix,More%20information%20needed,Patch%20Available,Confirmed,Unclassified;ord1=2,3,4,1,0,5|Patches submitted in the Debian BTS]]  * [[http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=debian-hurd@lists.debian.org;tag=hurd|Patches submitted in the Debian BTS]]

Debian > Debian GNU > Debian GNU/Hurd


This page attempts to be a reference for all resources related to Debian GNU/Hurd that can be useful for users and developers. Feel free to add more stuff as you see fit.

"In a discussion with the Debian Hurd porters it was decided that the Hurd port stays on FTPMaster until Wheezy is released. Should they have managed to get the port into a state that it is released together with all the others (probably as a technology preview), it is kept in the archive. Should they not manage this the port will be removed from the main archive and move fully to debian-ports.org."1

What is Debian GNU/Hurd ?

Debian GNU/Hurd is an operating system from Debian, but which uses GNU Hurd, which is a set of servers, running on top of the GNU Mach microkernel instead of the kernel named Linux (thus the name Debian GNU/Hurd). Some day, most applications will exist both in Debian GNU/Hurd and in Debian GNU/Linux.

Basic info

Goals for releasing in wheezy

  • buildd
    • security
    • DSA
  • proper dhcp support in installed system
    • use ifup/ifdown instead of translators entry?
  • packages in debian-ports (those marked with <!> need to be integrated in the main archive):

    • (hurd-any) cardmgr-gnumach
      • wifi, can live without
      • postpone
    • (hurd-any) console-driver-xkb
      • we should probably just integrate it in the hurd package
      • See the concerns on the mailing list archive (bug-hurd, "XKB's keymaps for the Hurd console")
      • can postpone
    • (hurd-any) cvsfs
    • (hurd-any) gopherfs
    • (./) grub2, NMUed

    • <!> icon, to remove

      • 654381 still pending

      • for lyx.
      • -k option issue fixed by exec_file_name patch in libc.
    • (./) ifupdown, to remove

      • DONE
    • <!> isc-dhcp

      • 616290

      • Being Discussed directly with upstream, upstream patch available
      • Maintainer wants patch really applied upstream before adding it to debian.
      • patch applied upstream for newer version
    • <!> libpciaccess

    • (./) libusb, to remove

    • (./) lockdev, NMUed

    • (hurd-any) netio
    • (./) parted, NMUed

    • (./) psmisc, to remove

    • (hurd-any) random-egd
      • make it an alternative to Marcus' C implementation
      • can live without
      • can postpone
    • (./) screen, to remove

      • trivial fix on 522689 , fixed in experimental

    • (hurd-any) smbfs
    • (hurd-any) tarfs
    • (hurd-any) wireless-tools-gnumach
      • just for wifi, can live without
      • postpone
  • various packages in debian-ports, but not a priority
  • Be able to install at least the base from official mirror (now just missing dhcp)
  • (./) Integrate DDE to get nowadays' network support.

  • Get Xorg + gnome/kde/xfce (xfce should work, kde is missing working dbus (due to local socket auth and bugs in select() cornercases)) + some webbrowser working (iceweasel 9 works, though not https).
  • (./) Fix ext2fs uncleanness at reboot http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/sync_but_still_unclean_filesystem.html

  • Switch to plain sysv startup?
  • (./) Enable console by default? (we now have proper kernel message relaying)

  • fix "su" to root discrepancy (PATH does not include sbin etc.), apparently simply because shadow's su vs coreutils' su. Also see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.utilities.util-linux-ng/6488...

  • Good archive coverage.
    • We're at 76%, kfreebsd was at 85% when it entered wheezy. Although probably not reachable, we can probably do better with
      • mono
      • fpc
  • Fix at least the required, important and standard packages from http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/out_of_date.txt

  • Try to fix the top of http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/graph-total-top.txt

Goals for later

  • IPv6 support in d-i (after it is settled for linux).
  • upgrade libfuse compatibility to >= 2.6.5, with fuse_lowlevel.h

  • add cpuid-based autoloading of libc0.3-i686

Developer info


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  1. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/03/msg00015.html - Debian pushes development of the Hurd port (1)