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[[Debian]] > [[Debian_GNU|Debian GNU]] > Debian GNU/Hurd
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This page attempts to be a reference for all resources related to Debian GNU/Hurd that can be useful for users and developers. Feel free to add more stuff as you see fit.

''"In a discussion with the Debian Hurd porters it was decided that the
Hurd port stays on FTPMaster until Wheezy is released. Should they
have managed to get the port into a state that it is released together
with all the others (probably as a technology preview), it is kept in
the archive. Should they not manage this the port will be removed from
the main archive and move fully to debian-ports.org."''<<FootNote([[http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/03/msg00015.html]] - Debian pushes development of the Hurd port)>>


= What is Debian GNU/Hurd ? =
''Debian GNU/Hurd'' is an operating system from Debian, but which uses [[http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/|GNU Hurd]], which is a set of servers, running on top of the GNU Mach microkernel instead of the kernel named ''Linux'' (thus the name Debian GNU/Hurd). Some day, most applications will exist both in ''Debian GNU/Hurd'' and in ''[[DebianGnuLinux|Debian GNU/Linux]]''.

== Basic info ==

 * [[http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/|Official port site]]

 * [[http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/|GNU's GNU Hurd]]

 * Installation and testing:
  * http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-install
   * Debian "Sid" debian-installer images available [[http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/installer/cdimage/]].
   * This is the prefered method of install.
  * [[DebianPackage:crosshurd|Cross Hurd]]
  * Pre-build image files (*.img.*) at [[http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/hurd-i386/]]

 * [[Debian_GNU/Hurd_FAQ]]

 * [[TheHurd]] page. (Merge?)

 * [[http://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/|User/developer discussion mailing list]]

 * [[http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/07/msg00002.html|Last bits from the project]]

 * IRC channel: http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/irc.html
  * [[irc://irc.freenode.net/hurd|#hurd]] on irc.freenode.net
  * [[irc://irc.debian.org/debian-hurd|#debian-hurd]] on irc.debian.org

== Goals for releasing in wheezy ==

 * buildd
  * security
  * DSA
 * proper dhcp support in installed system
  * use ifup/ifdown instead of translators entry?
 * packages in debian-ports (those marked with <!> need to be integrated in the main archive):
  * (hurd-any) cardmgr-gnumach
   * wifi, can live without
   * postpone
  * (hurd-any) console-driver-xkb
   * we should probably just integrate it in the hurd package
   * See the concerns on the mailing list archive (bug-hurd, "XKB's keymaps for the Hurd console")
   * can postpone
  * (hurd-any) cvsfs
   * ITP: DebianBug:669647
  * eglibc
   * Fix sub-hurd boot.
   * tg-ifaddrs_v6
   * remap_getcwd
   * select-timeout
   * TODO: af_local_strlen
  * emacs-defaults
   * default to emacs24
  * exim4
   * issue with ipv6-enabled system
   * DebianBug:698092
  * gdb
   * Add hardware watch support.
  * (hurd-any) gopherfs
   * ITP: DebianBug:669648
  * (hurd-any) httpfs
  * <!> icon, to remove
   * DebianBug:654381 still pending
   * for lyx.
   * -k option issue fixed by exec_file_name patch in libc.
  * <!> isc-dhcp
   * DebianBug:616290
   * Being Discussed directly with upstream, upstream patch available
   * Maintainer wants patch really applied upstream before adding it to debian.
   * patch applied upstream for newer version
  * <!> libpciaccess
   * DebianBug:675289
  * libpthread-stubs
   * DebianBug:706865 drop the hurd-specific part, to remove the .so library
  * libxcb
   * rebuilt against empty libpthread-stubs
  * (hurd-any) netio
   * ITP: DebianBug:669652
  * ntp
   * Ship ntpdate at least.
  * (hurd-any) random-egd
   * make it an alternative to Marcus' C implementation
   * can live without
   * can postpone
  * (hurd-any) smbfs
   * ITP: DebianBug:669653
  * sysvinit, to remove
   * DebianBug:663009, fixed.
  * (hurd-any) tarfs
   * ITP: DebianBug:669654
  * (hurd-any) wireless-tools-gnumach
   * just for wifi, can live without
   * postpone
  * xorg
   * Drop openchrome dependency
   * DebianBug:706889
 * various packages in debian-ports, but not a priority
  * premake, to remove DebianBug:599789
  * vnc4 DebianBug:610852
  * sendmail DebianBug:608525
 * Be able to install at least the base from official mirror (now just missing dhcp)
 * (./) Integrate DDE to get nowadays' network support.
 * Get Xorg + gnome/kde/xfce (xfce should work, kde is missing working dbus (due to local socket auth and bugs in select() cornercases)) + some webbrowser working (iceweasel 9 works, though not https).
 * (./) Fix ext2fs uncleanness at reboot [[http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/sync_but_still_unclean_filesystem.html]]
 * Switch to plain sysv startup?
 * (./) Enable console by default? (we now have proper kernel message relaying)
 * fix "su" to root discrepancy (PATH does not include sbin etc.), apparently simply because shadow's su vs coreutils' su. Also see [[http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.utilities.util-linux-ng/6488]]...
 * Good archive coverage.
  * We're at 76%, kfreebsd was at 85% when it entered wheezy. Although probably not reachable, we can probably do better with
   * mono
   * fpc
 * Fix at least the required, important and standard packages from http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/out_of_date.txt
 * Try to fix the top of http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/graph-total-top.txt

== Goals for later ==

 * IPv6 support in d-i (after it is settled for linux).
 * upgrade libfuse compatibility to >= 2.6.5, with fuse_lowlevel.h
 * add cpuid-based autoloading of libc0.3-i686

== Developer info ==

 * DD-accessible machines running GNU/Hurd:
  * hurd-i386: see [[ArchiveQualification/hurd-i386]]

 * [[ArchiveQualification/hurd-i386]]

 * [[https://alioth.debian.org/projects/debian-hurd/|Debian GNU/Hurd port on alioth]]

 * [[http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-devel|Debian GNU/Hurd Development]]

 * --( [[https://debian-hurd.alioth.debian.org/TODO|TODO file, with all sorts tasks we need help on]] )--

 * --( [[http://debian-hurd.alioth.debian.org/NOTES.archive|NOTES about package status in official archive]] )--

 * --( [[http://alioth.debian.org/~kibi/bd-report/|Packages with uninstallable Build-Depends]] )--

 * [[http://edos.debian.net/edos-debcheck/unstable.php|Uninstallable packages (EDOS debcheck)]]

 * --( [[http://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-devel-debian|Basic porting information]] )--

 * --( [[http://alioth.debian.org/tracker/?atid=410472&group_id=30628&func=browse|Our patches directory]] )--

 * --( [[http://debian-hurd.alioth.debian.org/patches/debian-only/|Patches that are only needed for Debian]] (either because they're fixed-upstream, or because of their Debian-specific nature) )--

 * [[http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=debian-hurd@lists.debian.org;tag=hurd|Patches submitted in the Debian BTS]]

 * [[http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?submitter=dschepler@gmail.com|General FTBFS also affect us (dschepler@gmail.com)]]
 * [[http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?submitter=lucas@lucas-nussbaum.net|General FTBFS also affect us (lucas@lucas-nussbaum.net)]]

 * [[https://buildd.debian.org/|Build logs of Debian GNU/Hurd]]

 * [[https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-hurd/|Hurd package on alioth]]

 * [[https://alioth.debian.org/projects/crosshurd/|crosshurd on alioth]]


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## This page is referenced from http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/
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Debian > Debian GNU > Debian GNU/Hurd


This page attempts to be a reference for all resources related to Debian GNU/Hurd that can be useful for users and developers. Feel free to add more stuff as you see fit.

"In a discussion with the Debian Hurd porters it was decided that the Hurd port stays on FTPMaster until Wheezy is released. Should they have managed to get the port into a state that it is released together with all the others (probably as a technology preview), it is kept in the archive. Should they not manage this the port will be removed from the main archive and move fully to debian-ports.org."1

What is Debian GNU/Hurd ?

Debian GNU/Hurd is an operating system from Debian, but which uses GNU Hurd, which is a set of servers, running on top of the GNU Mach microkernel instead of the kernel named Linux (thus the name Debian GNU/Hurd). Some day, most applications will exist both in Debian GNU/Hurd and in Debian GNU/Linux.

Basic info

Goals for releasing in wheezy

  • buildd
    • security
    • DSA
  • proper dhcp support in installed system
    • use ifup/ifdown instead of translators entry?
  • packages in debian-ports (those marked with <!> need to be integrated in the main archive):

    • (hurd-any) cardmgr-gnumach
      • wifi, can live without
      • postpone
    • (hurd-any) console-driver-xkb
      • we should probably just integrate it in the hurd package
      • See the concerns on the mailing list archive (bug-hurd, "XKB's keymaps for the Hurd console")
      • can postpone
    • (hurd-any) cvsfs
    • eglibc
      • Fix sub-hurd boot.
      • tg-ifaddrs_v6
      • remap_getcwd
      • select-timeout
      • TODO: af_local_strlen
    • emacs-defaults
      • default to emacs24
    • exim4
      • issue with ipv6-enabled system
      • 698092

    • gdb
      • Add hardware watch support.
    • (hurd-any) gopherfs
    • (hurd-any) httpfs
    • <!> icon, to remove

      • 654381 still pending

      • for lyx.
      • -k option issue fixed by exec_file_name patch in libc.
    • <!> isc-dhcp

      • 616290

      • Being Discussed directly with upstream, upstream patch available
      • Maintainer wants patch really applied upstream before adding it to debian.
      • patch applied upstream for newer version
    • <!> libpciaccess

    • libpthread-stubs
      • 706865 drop the hurd-specific part, to remove the .so library

    • libxcb
      • rebuilt against empty libpthread-stubs
    • (hurd-any) netio
    • ntp
      • Ship ntpdate at least.
    • (hurd-any) random-egd
      • make it an alternative to Marcus' C implementation
      • can live without
      • can postpone
    • (hurd-any) smbfs
    • sysvinit, to remove
    • (hurd-any) tarfs
    • (hurd-any) wireless-tools-gnumach
      • just for wifi, can live without
      • postpone
    • xorg
      • Drop openchrome dependency
      • 706889

  • various packages in debian-ports, but not a priority
  • Be able to install at least the base from official mirror (now just missing dhcp)
  • (./) Integrate DDE to get nowadays' network support.

  • Get Xorg + gnome/kde/xfce (xfce should work, kde is missing working dbus (due to local socket auth and bugs in select() cornercases)) + some webbrowser working (iceweasel 9 works, though not https).
  • (./) Fix ext2fs uncleanness at reboot http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/sync_but_still_unclean_filesystem.html

  • Switch to plain sysv startup?
  • (./) Enable console by default? (we now have proper kernel message relaying)

  • fix "su" to root discrepancy (PATH does not include sbin etc.), apparently simply because shadow's su vs coreutils' su. Also see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.utilities.util-linux-ng/6488...

  • Good archive coverage.
    • We're at 76%, kfreebsd was at 85% when it entered wheezy. Although probably not reachable, we can probably do better with
      • mono
      • fpc
  • Fix at least the required, important and standard packages from http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/out_of_date.txt

  • Try to fix the top of http://people.debian.org/~sthibault/graph-total-top.txt

Goals for later

  • IPv6 support in d-i (after it is settled for linux).
  • upgrade libfuse compatibility to >= 2.6.5, with fuse_lowlevel.h

  • add cpuid-based autoloading of libc0.3-i686

Developer info


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  1. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/03/msg00015.html - Debian pushes development of the Hurd port (1)