1 From portal!imurdock Mon Aug 16 06:31:03 1993 2 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development 3 Path: portal.imurdock 4 From: email@example.com (Ian A Murdock) 5 Subject: New release under development; suggestions requested 6 Message-ID: <CBusDD.MIK@unix.portal.com> 7 Sender: firstname.lastname@example.org 8 Nntp-Posting-Host: jobe.unix.portal.com 9 Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data) 10 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 13:05:37 GMT 11 Lines: 86 12 13 Fellow Linuxers, 14 15 This is just to announce the imminent completion of a brand-new Linux release, 16 which I'm calling the Debian Linux Release. This is a release that I have put 17 together basically from scratch; in other words, I didn't simply make some 18 changes to SLS and call it a new release. I was inspired to put together this 19 release after running SLS and generally being dissatisfied with much of it, 20 and after much altering of SLS I decided that it would be easier to start 21 from scratch. The base system is now virtually complete (though I'm still 22 looking around to make sure that I grabbed the most recent sources for 23 everything), and I'd like to get some feedback before I add the "fancy" stuff. 24 25 Please note that this release is not yet completed and may not be for several 26 more weeks; however, I thought I'd post now to perhaps draw a few people out 27 of the woodwork. Specifically, I'm looking for: 28 29 1) someone who will eventually be willing to allow me to upload the 30 release to their anonymous ftp-site. Please contact me. 31 Be warned that it will be rather large :) 32 33 2) comments, suggestions, advice, etc. from the Linux community. This 34 is your chance to suggest specific packages, series, or 35 anything you'd like to see part of the final release. 36 37 Don't assume that because a package is in SLS that it will necessarily be 38 included in the Debian release! Things like ls and cat are a given, but if 39 there's anything that's in SLS that you couldn't live without please let me 40 know! 41 42 I'd also like suggestions for specific features for the release. For example, 43 a friend of mine here suggested that undesired packages should be selected 44 BEFORE the installation procedure begins so the installer doesn't have to 45 babysit the installation. Suggestions along that line are also welcomed. 46 47 What will make this release better than SLS? This: 48 49 1) Debian will be sleeker and slimmer. No more multiple binaries and 50 manpages. 51 2) Debian will contain the most up-to-date of everything. The system 52 will be easy to keep up-to-date with a 'upgrading' script in 53 the base system which will allow complete integration of 54 upgrade packages. 55 3) Debian will contain a installation procedure that doesn't need to 56 be babysat; simply install the basedisk, copy the distribution 57 disks to the harddrive, answer some question about what 58 packages you want or don't want installed, and let the machine 59 install the release while you do more interesting things. 60 4) Debian will contain a system setup procedure that will attempt to 61 setup and configure everything from fstab to Xconfig. 62 5) Debian will contain a menu system that WORKS... menu-driven 63 package installation and upgrading utility, menu-driven 64 system setup, menu-driven help system, and menu-driven 65 system administration. 66 6) Debian will make Linux easier for users who don't have access to the 67 Internet. Currently, users are stuck with whatever comes with 68 SLS. Non-Internet users will have the option of receiving 69 periodic upgrade packages to apply to their system. They will 70 also have the option of selecting from a huge library of 71 additional packages that will not be included in the base 72 system. This library will contain packages like the S3 73 X-server, nethack and Seyon; basically packages that you and I 74 can ftp but non-netters cannot access. 75 7) Debian will be extensively documented (more than just a few 76 READMEs). 77 8) As I put together Debian, I am keeping a meticulous record of 78 where I got everything. This will allow the end-user to 79 not only know where to get the source, but whether or not 80 the most recent version is a part of Debian. This record 81 will help to keep the Debian release as up-to-date as possible. 82 9) Lots more, but I'll detail later... 83 84 Anyway, I'll provide more specifics in a week or so after I receive enough 85 replies. 86 87 Please, all replies by mail. I'll post a followup. If you wish to discuss 88 this in the newsgroup, please don't turn it into a flamewar. :) 89 90 Until later, 91 92 Ian 93 -- 94 Ian Murdock Internet: email@example.com 95 The Linux Warehouse
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