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residence of the [http://www.unex.es/ University of Extremadura] would be the [http://www.unex.es/eweb/RVC/ best place to stay]. Located in [http://www.jarandilla.com/ Jarandilla de la Vera] in the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A1ceres_%28province%29 Cáceres province].
 * [http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/dyn/controller/ItiWGPerformPage?E_wg=210506100lS11J106099132954428835ITIWG5n11133gbr005b113m101410110y100r11038440008TWFkcmlk0000110001229101123101w1103844000sSmFyYW5kaWxsYSBkZSBsYSBWZXJh07MTA0NTA00100e123xey51045010013010010072006099039.004-1.00110001001001001001001003gbr011011&stat=ambiguous_iti&pim=true&dtmDeparture=09%2F04%2F2006&strStartChoice=0&x=27&y=10 From Madrid Airport (222 km)]
 * [http://www17.mappy.com/sidxmJ+zAVaEPrMn21w/ACFGT?anchor=0&option=0&sel=europe&csl=i1%2Cv1%2Cv2%2Cv3%2Ci2&fsl=i1%2Cv1%2Cv2%2Cv3%2Ci2&gsl=i1%2Cv1%2Cv2%2Cv3%2Ci2&isl=i0&xsl=2&out=2&issl=i1&iesl=i2&ivsl1=v1&ivsl2=v2&ivsl3=v3&imult=0&flash=1&iveh=&isveh=&wni1=&wci1=&noi1=&tni1=Madrid&pci1=&tci1=&a10i1=&xi1=&yi1=&csi1=4326&cci1=724&wni2=&wci2=&noi2=&tni2=Jarandilla+de+la+Vera&pci2=&tci2=&a10i2=&xi2=&yi2=&csi2=4326&cci2=724&imode=0&x=8&y=4 From Madrid Airport (221.6 km)]
 * [http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/dyn/controller/ItiWGPerformPage?E_wg=210506100lS11J106099133237429715ITIWG5v11133gbr005j113u101c101116100z11038440008TWFkcmlk00001008113y5r1001029101123101w1103844000sSmFyYW5kaWxsYSBkZSBsYSBWZXJh07MTA0NTA00100e123xey51045010010010010072006099039.004-1.00110001001001001001001003gbr011011&pim=true&vh=CAR&distance=km&devise=1.0%7CEUR&carburant=Essence&isAvoidFrontiers=false&isFavoriseAutoroute=false&isAvoidPeage=false&isAvoidVignette=false&isAvoidLNR=false&strTypeStep=0&strVehicle=0&carTypeHidden=Citadine&caravaneHidden=false&typeCarbHidden=essence&conso=6.0&strStartAddress=&strStartCP=&strStartCity=Caceres&strStartCityCountry=844&strDestAddress=&strDestCP=10450&strDestCity=Jarandilla+de+la+Vera&strDestCityCountry=844&intItineraryType=1&strStep1Address=&strStep1CP=&strStep1City=&strStep1CityCountry=844&strStep2Address=&strStep2CP=&strStep2City=&strStep2CityCountry=844&strStep3Address=&strStep3CP=&strStep3City=&strStep3CityCountry=844&dtmDeparture=09%2F04%2F2006&carbCost=1.3 From Cáceres (131 km)]
 * [http://www11.mappy.com/sidjlG0PSLeo/7Mn21w/CFGT?anchor=0&option=0&csl=i1%2Cv1%2Cv2%2Cv3%2Cv4%2Cv5%2Ci2&fsl=i1%2Cv1%2Cv2%2Cv3%2Cv4%2Cv5%2Ci2&gsl=i1%2Cv1%2Cv2%2Cv3%2Cv4%2Cv5%2Ci2&isl=i0&xsl=2&out=2&issl=i1&iesl=i2&ivsl1=v1&ivsl2=v2&ivsl3=v3&ivsl4=v4&ivsl5=v5&iveh=car&isveh=sedcar&wni1=&wci1=&noi1=&tci1=24941&tni1=Caceres&pci1=&a10i1=&cci1=724&wni2=&wci2=&noi2=&tci2=25695%3Ba10i2%3D&tni2=Jarandila&pci2=&cci2=724&imode=0&x=16&y=11&wnv1=&wcv1=&nov1=&tnv1=&pcv1=&tcv1=&a10v1=&xv1=&yv1=&csv1=4326&ccv1=724&wnv2=&wcv2=&nov2=&tnv2=&pcv2=&tcv2=&a10v2=&xv2=&yv2=&csv2=4326&ccv2=724&wnv3=&wcv3=&nov3=&tnv3=&pcv3=&tcv3=&a10v3=&xv3=&yv3=&csv3=4326&ccv3=724&wnv4=&wcv4=&nov4=&tnv4=&pcv4=&tcv4=&a10v4=&xv4=&yv4=&csv4=4326&ccv4=724&wnv5=&wcv5=&nov5=&tnv5=&pcv5=&tcv5=&a10v5=&xv5=&yv5=&csv5=4326&ccv5=724&order=0From From Cáceres (126.4 km)]
 * [http://www.meteosat.com/previsiones/sp/localidades/pronostico_del_tiempo_para_Caceres.html Weather at Caceres today]
residence of the [[http://www.unex.es/|University of Extremadura]] would be the [[http://www.unex.es/eweb/RVC/|best place to stay]]. Located in [[http://www.jarandilla.com/|Jarandilla de la Vera]] in the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C3%A1ceres_%28province%29|Cáceres province]].
 * [[http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/dyn/controller/ItiWGPerformPage?E_wg=210506100lS11J106099132954428835ITIWG5n11133gbr005b113m101410110y100r11038440008TWFkcmlk0000110001229101123101w1103844000sSmFyYW5kaWxsYSBkZSBsYSBWZXJh07MTA0NTA00100e123xey51045010013010010072006099039.004-1.00110001001001001001001003gbr011011&stat=ambiguous_iti&pim=true&dtmDeparture=09%2F04%2F2006&strStartChoice=0&x=27&y=10|From Madrid Airport (222 km)]]
 * [[http://www17.mappy.com/sidxmJ+zAVaEPrMn21w/ACFGT?anchor=0&option=0&sel=europe&csl=i1%2Cv1%2Cv2%2Cv3%2Ci2&fsl=i1%2Cv1%2Cv2%2Cv3%2Ci2&gsl=i1%2Cv1%2Cv2%2Cv3%2Ci2&isl=i0&xsl=2&out=2&issl=i1&iesl=i2&ivsl1=v1&ivsl2=v2&ivsl3=v3&imult=0&flash=1&iveh=&isveh=&wni1=&wci1=&noi1=&tni1=Madrid&pci1=&tci1=&a10i1=&xi1=&yi1=&csi1=4326&cci1=724&wni2=&wci2=&noi2=&tni2=Jarandilla+de+la+Vera&pci2=&tci2=&a10i2=&xi2=&yi2=&csi2=4326&cci2=724&imode=0&x=8&y=4|From Madrid Airport (221.6 km)]]
 * [[http://www.viamichelin.co.uk/viamichelin/gbr/dyn/controller/ItiWGPerformPage?E_wg=210506100lS11J106099133237429715ITIWG5v11133gbr005j113u101c101116100z11038440008TWFkcmlk00001008113y5r1001029101123101w1103844000sSmFyYW5kaWxsYSBkZSBsYSBWZXJh07MTA0NTA00100e123xey51045010010010010072006099039.004-1.00110001001001001001001003gbr011011&pim=true&vh=CAR&distance=km&devise=1.0%7CEUR&carburant=Essence&isAvoidFrontiers=false&isFavoriseAutoroute=false&isAvoidPeage=false&isAvoidVignette=false&isAvoidLNR=false&strTypeStep=0&strVehicle=0&carTypeHidden=Citadine&caravaneHidden=false&typeCarbHidden=essence&conso=6.0&strStartAddress=&strStartCP=&strStartCity=Caceres&strStartCityCountry=844&strDestAddress=&strDestCP=10450&strDestCity=Jarandilla+de+la+Vera&strDestCityCountry=844&intItineraryType=1&strStep1Address=&strStep1CP=&strStep1City=&strStep1CityCountry=844&strStep2Address=&strStep2CP=&strStep2City=&strStep2CityCountry=844&strStep3Address=&strStep3CP=&strStep3City=&strStep3CityCountry=844&dtmDeparture=09%2F04%2F2006&carbCost=1.3|From Cáceres (131 km)]]
 * [[http://www11.mappy.com/sidjlG0PSLeo/7Mn21w/CFGT?anchor=0&option=0&csl=i1%2Cv1%2Cv2%2Cv3%2Cv4%2Cv5%2Ci2&fsl=i1%2Cv1%2Cv2%2Cv3%2Cv4%2Cv5%2Ci2&gsl=i1%2Cv1%2Cv2%2Cv3%2Cv4%2Cv5%2Ci2&isl=i0&xsl=2&out=2&issl=i1&iesl=i2&ivsl1=v1&ivsl2=v2&ivsl3=v3&ivsl4=v4&ivsl5=v5&iveh=car&isveh=sedcar&wni1=&wci1=&noi1=&tci1=24941&tni1=Caceres&pci1=&a10i1=&cci1=724&wni2=&wci2=&noi2=&tci2=25695%3Ba10i2%3D&tni2=Jarandila&pci2=&cci2=724&imode=0&x=16&y=11&wnv1=&wcv1=&nov1=&tnv1=&pcv1=&tcv1=&a10v1=&xv1=&yv1=&csv1=4326&ccv1=724&wnv2=&wcv2=&nov2=&tnv2=&pcv2=&tcv2=&a10v2=&xv2=&yv2=&csv2=4326&ccv2=724&wnv3=&wcv3=&nov3=&tnv3=&pcv3=&tcv3=&a10v3=&xv3=&yv3=&csv3=4326&ccv3=724&wnv4=&wcv4=&nov4=&tnv4=&pcv4=&tcv4=&a10v4=&xv4=&yv4=&csv4=4326&ccv4=724&wnv5=&wcv5=&nov5=&tnv5=&pcv5=&tcv5=&a10v5=&xv5=&yv5=&csv5=4326&ccv5=724&order=0From|From Cáceres (126.4 km)]]
 * [[http://www.meteosat.com/previsiones/sp/localidades/pronostico_del_tiempo_para_Caceres.html|Weather at Caceres today]]
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The organizers have reserved 12 double rooms for the event. If you have any preferences who to be with, edit ["DebianEmbeddedWorkSessionExtremadura2006/Bedrooms"]. Else we'll fill you in :) The organizers have reserved 12 double rooms for the event. If you have any preferences who to be with, edit [[DebianEmbeddedWorkSessionExtremadura2006/Bedrooms]]. Else we'll fill you in :)
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 * ["Embedded Debian"] in general  * [[Embedded_Debian]] in general
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   * [http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/replacing_stuff_with_busybox.html Replacing stuff with busybox]
 * bring [http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/2005/11/msg00014.html Ed's framework] upto date with Etch.
   * [[http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/replacing_stuff_with_busybox.html|Replacing stuff with busybox]]
 * bring [[http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/2005/11/msg00014.html|Ed's framework]] upto date with Etch.
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   * stripping of unneccessary bits of packages (extend [http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kernel-wedge.html  kernel-wedge]?)    * stripping of unneccessary bits of packages (extend [[http://packages.qa.debian.org/k/kernel-wedge.html|kernel-wedge]]?)
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 * [http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/12/msg00003.html Original annoucement of the Extremadura Sessions] by AndreasSchuldei
 * [http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/2006/01/msg00002.html Embedded announcement]
 * [http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/2006/02/msg00018.html Confirmation request]
 * [[http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/12/msg00003.html|Original annoucement of the Extremadura Sessions]] by AndreasSchuldei
 * [[http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/2006/01/msg00002.html|Embedded announcement]]
 * [[http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/2006/02/msg00018.html|Confirmation request]]
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Please add you own name, e-mail address, country ([http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/02iso-3166-code-lists/list-en1.html 2-letter code]) and airport of origin ([http://www.photius.com/wfb2001/airport_codes_alpha.html 3 letter code]) Please add you own name, e-mail address, country ([[http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/02iso-3166-code-lists/list-en1.html|2-letter code]]) and airport of origin ([[http://www.photius.com/wfb2001/airport_codes_alpha.html|3 letter code]])
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   * Linksys NSLU-2, Nokia 770, [[http://supertank.iodata.jp/products/sotohdlwu/ superH NAS device]], ipaq's if needed.    * Linksys NSLU-2, Nokia 770, [[[http://supertank.iodata.jp/products/sotohdlwu/|superH NAS device]]], ipaq's if needed.
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   * [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_770_Internet_Tablet Nokia 770 (arm)], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP32 GamePark GP32 (arm)], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54GS Linksys WRT54GS v4.0 (mips)], [http://www.seattlewireless.net/ComtrendCT-536+ Comtrend CT-536+ (mips)], [http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~hamblen/UP3/ Altera's UP3 Board (Cyclone FPGA)]    * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_770_Internet_Tablet|Nokia 770 (arm)]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP32|GamePark GP32 (arm)]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRT54GS|Linksys WRT54GS v4.0 (mips)]], [[http://www.seattlewireless.net/ComtrendCT-536+|Comtrend CT-536+ (mips)]], [[http://users.ece.gatech.edu/~hamblen/UP3/|Altera's UP3 Board (Cyclone FPGA)]]

Embedded Worksession Extremadura

Date: 12.4-16.4

General information about the Extremadura sessions: WorkSessionsExtremadura This includes tickets, food accommodation etc. which does not change between sessions.

Organizational Stuff

Timetable

28.2.2006

Deadline for Attendee list with food preferences

28.2.2006

List of people needing travel sponsorship with full details needed for ticket ordering

31.3.2006

List Arrival/Departure times/flight numbers of those who get the flight tickets themself

12.4.2006

Event starts

12.4.2006 15:00?

Arrive at Jarnadilla

12th evening

People introduce what they personally want to do/decide here

...

Hacking

14th evening

short Mid-workshop status meeting

...

Hacking

15th evening

workshop wrap-up and where to continue at home

16.4.2006

Event over :'(

Local contacts

  • Dario Rapisardi, <dario at rapisardi dot org>, ES, +34 678 049 111

  • César Gómez Martín, <cesar dot gomez at gmail dot com> <cesar dot gomez at juntaextremadura dot net>, Cáceres, ES

Debian contact

Where

Extremadura organizers have decided that during easter season, a beautiful hall of residence of the University of Extremadura would be the best place to stay. Located in Jarandilla de la Vera in the Cáceres province.

Networking stuff- like cables, switches, APs, etc - is provided for University and the Junta de Extremadura. If you have any specific needs you can't carry with you, please inform organizers.

Accommodation

The organizers have reserved 12 double rooms for the event. If you have any preferences who to be with, edit DebianEmbeddedWorkSessionExtremadura2006/Bedrooms. Else we'll fill you in :)

Transport from Madrid Airport to Jarandilla

  • How are people going to get to Jarandilla from the airport?

Extremadura has organized a bus for us. The bus in will be in the bus parking of Terminal 1, it's from the "Autobuses Gonzalez" company. It will be there at 13.00, and leaves as soon the people from .fi (the last flight we know people are coming with) get throught the airport. If needed, anyone can call Dario to his cell phone, he'll be at the airport.

Food

The sponsor is also taking care of food for the attendees. If somebody have any particular preference/need (like vegans or allergies) please contact the Local Contacts.

Agenda

These are mostly ideas I gathered when I got the idea of this session. I haven't recieved much feedback, so I assume these ideas are not completly off base. I hope people think a bit about the big picture, and how to save their own work in long term by getting more embedded friendlyness in Debian.

  • Embedded_Debian in general

  • Howto to unify all the separate "embedded Debian" efforts
  • Generate SLIND patches and integrate them into Debian
  • bring Ed's framework upto date with Etch.

  • Minimal rootfs of etch.. with 250MB basic install the need is greater than ever
  • create configurations for various devices and document howto do them
    • Linksys routers, Peplink, NAS devices, pda's/phones..
    • make it easy build bootable filesystem images
    • promote DEBUILD_OPTIONS=nodocs flag for not building docs
    • promote DEBUILD_OPTIONS=notest for skipping tests
    • stripping of unneccessary bits of packages (extend kernel-wedge?)

  • Dpkg subarch support and name for ARM EABI port
    • SLIND calls uclibc ports uclibc-i386 style
    • some people want i386-uclibc
    • ya, flamewar!
  • prepare uclibc port(s)
  • ArmEabiPort/sh3/blackfin/coldfire and similar "slow/embedded" arch porting
  • gpe/opie/maemo packaging and uploading to debian
  • Kill scratchbox in it's current form and make a better scratchbox2
  • cross-compiling for buildd's
  • unify, automate (and make easier) crosscompiler building
    • SLIND xcompiler packages
    • Wookey's xcompiler packages/scripts
    • crosstool
  • embedian/ dir vs usablity of udebs for embedded
  • rootfs generation: tarball, jffs2, cramfs, nfsroot + sundry flash formats
  • EmDebian kernel integrations

  • Write some benchmark to test toolchain builds.
  • Write new documentation & webpage update. improve wiki..

Announcements

Attendees

Please add you own name, e-mail address, country (2-letter code) and airport of origin (3 letter code)

The number of attending people is strictly limited to 20, for lodging reasons. In case the final count exceeds that number, choices will have to be made, sorry for this.

Flight tickets status

Ticket information has been sent. Arrival information of Guillem, Philippe and Alexander is still unknown!

Madrid Airport warning

All flights are going to Madrid, they have a new Terminal 4, a.k.a Terminator 4. Be aware, that people lose baggage and flights because flighing gates are 20-25 minutes away from security point, and a long way from checking point. Take this as a *WARNING* and please take care with your baggage. Also baggage handling is automatic and i think they really need some emdebian geeks to stay over there for a couple months fixing their stuff. Please *DO NOT LOSE YOUR GADGETS*.

Ie, try survive with just hand luggage!

Sure

Name

e-mail

Town

Country

Airport

Arrival

Departure

Mr

Riku Voipio

<riku at debian dot org>

Espoo

FI

HEL

12:35 12th

15:30 16th

Mr

Hector Oron

<hector dot oron at gmail dot com>

Barcelona

ES

by car

12th evg

16th evg

Mr

Wookey

<wookey at debian dot org>

GB

by van

12th afternoon

16th evg

Mr

Colin Tuckley

<colin at tuckley dot org>

Worthing

GB

LGW

12:25 12th

18:55 16th

Mr

Martin Michlmayr

<tbm at cyrius dot com>

Madrid

Mr

Simon Richter

<sjr at debian dot org>

DE

MUC

10:35 12th

19:00 19th

Mr

Toni Timonen

<toni dot timonen at iki dot fi>

FI

HEL

12:35 12th

15:30 16th

Mr

Lauri Leukkunen

<lleukkun at cc dot hut dot fi>

Helsinki

FI

HEL

12:35 12th

15:30 19th

Mr

Jonas Meyer

<shitse at web dot de>

DE

STR

10:25 12th

17:40 16th

Mr

Eduard Bartosh

<eduard dot bartosh at nokia dot com>

Helsinki

FI

HEL

12:35 12th

15:30 16th

Mr

Lennert Buytenhek

<buytenh at wantstofly dot org>

Amsterdam

NL

AMS

10:55 12th

19:15 18th

Mr

Yauheni Kaliuta

<yauheni dot kaliuta at nokia dot com>

Helsinki

FI

HEL

12:35

15:30

Mr

Alexander Shishkin

<alexander dot shishkin at siemens dot com>

Saint-Petersburg

RU

FRA

11:40 12th

13:45 16th

Mr

Guillem Jover

<guillem at debian.org>

Helsinki

FI

HEL

13:20 12th

15:40 16th

Mr

Javier Carmona

<jdcarmona at sadiel dot es>

Cáceres

ES

by car

Sure (overseas)

These attendees are located outside Europe and additional funding might be required. So, being listed here is not a promise that you'll be able to come...but accepting to be listed here means to you're OK to come if we can fund you..:-)

Name

e-mail

Town

Country

Airport

Arrival

Departure

Mr

JoeyHess

<joeyh@debian.org>

Bristol TN

USA

TRI

11th 3:50 pm (overnighting at Amaya's and meeting the bus 12th noon)

16th 10:40 am (need to be there 2.5 hours in advancee; if I return on Saturday I can stay at Amaya's)

Family Members

As long as the *total* amount of people is under 20, family members can too be accomondated at Creofronte building.

Mrs

Marija Kulikova

Ms

Anna Valiente

Valencia

ES

by car

Ms

Tess Jones

GB

by van

Can sleep in van if there is no room left.

Ms

Franziska Schnell

DE

standby flight 12th morning or 11th evening

Hardware and interests

Since we are embedded, instead of say, s390, getting target hardware transported is easy. One of the advantages of meeting physically we exploit is meeting with systems you don't deal with usually. putting them in handluggage is good idea :)

  • Riku:
    • Linksys NSLU-2, Nokia 770, ?superH NAS device], ipaq's if needed.

    • Scratchbox2, Arm EABI, Crosscompilation for scratch
  • Wookey:
    • Bringing Balloon, and ARM EB (4-core) system
    • Merge SLIND/emdebian compiler-build systems. Automate them. ARM EABI, dpkg-cross building.
  • Hector:
  • Simon:
    • Bunch of picotuxen
    • Package manager and toolchain stuff
    • FPU issues with AT91RM9200
  • Jonas:
    • I'll bring two jornada 690s(sh3) and a fritzbox sl(mips ar7 dsl router)
    • scratchbox qte/opie and in case it doesn't work already
    • initrds to boot from pcmcia cards.
    • I'd also like to discuss ways to fully bootstrap a system.
  • Martin:
    • NSLU2
  • Colin:
    • I'll bring a Balloon
    • work on Emdebian build/package system
  • Ed:
    • Nokia 770 if needed.
    • Scratchbox, Arm EABI, STAG framework, uclibc build
  • JoeyHess

    • Working on nslu2/linksys Debian stuff, also work for ARM board manufacturer ADS. Will bring a NSLU2 and a bitsyxb or possibly a sphere.
  • Alex:
    • Slind enabled n770
    • all things slind including lates slind repository snapshot :)

  • Guillem:
    • Nokia 770.


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