[19:02:24] <h01ger> heh [19:02:27] * itais is taking care of the children dinner, so I'm out of the lottery [19:03:01] <danielsan> anyone attending the meeting, pleace indicate your presence by doing "/me = " [19:03:04] * danielsan = Daniel Heß [19:03:11] * andreas = Andreas Tille [19:03:15] * h01ger = Holger Levsen [19:03:17] * itais = José L. Redrejo [19:03:25] * lud93r = Ludger Sicking [19:03:32] * Blankoworld = Olivier Dossmann [19:03:33] * alfton_hjemme = Alf Tonny Bätz [19:03:46] <danielsan> #topic welcome round [19:04:12] <danielsan> #topic 1. Who writes the summary? [19:04:40] <danielsan> volunteered to write the summary, so we can move on :) [19:04:48] <h01ger> \o/ [19:05:02] <danielsan> #links agenda is on http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Meeting [19:05:15] <danielsan> #link http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Meeting [19:05:30] <danielsan> #topic 2. bugs we care about in etch [19:05:47] <danielsan> no name on it, so who whants? [19:05:59] <h01ger> there were four etch relevant bug reports last week [19:06:10] <andreas> I wonder if this should really be _Etch_ and not _Lenny_? [19:06:10] <h01ger> but no replies yet [19:06:16] <h01ger> it should be etch [19:06:19] <alfton_hjemme> i have something about the kiosktool [19:06:58] <h01ger> i guess we want to have flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound moved from etch-test to etch? can someone confirm it works? [19:07:46] * danielsan has no idea [19:08:02] * h01ger removes flashplugin-nonfree from etch-test, newer version in bpo... [19:08:27] <danielsan> #action h01ger will remove flashplugin-nonfree from etch-test [19:08:44] <h01ger> and i will send mail about flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound... [19:09:03] * pere = Petter Reinholdtsen [19:09:19] <danielsan> h01ger: so what are the other three bugs? [19:09:28] <h01ger> hi pere, backlog at http://meetbot.debian.net/meetbot/debian-edu.log.20080310_1902.html [19:10:05] <h01ger> #1301, #1302, #1304 - 1303 is rather harmless [19:10:45] <h01ger> does someone use adept happily and succesfully? [19:10:53] <h01ger> (this is what 1301 and 1302 are about) [19:10:57] <danielsan> #link http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1301, http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1302, http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1303, http://bugs.skolelinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1304 [19:11:07] <pere> h01ger: I tested the extrasound package in Narvik, and it worked, but introduced a lot of jitter in the sound. [19:11:33] <h01ger> pere, with ltsp or on the same machine? [19:11:46] * h01ger wonders if there were more testers... [19:12:06] * itais tested it on lenny and it worked too (only on i386) [19:12:10] <pere> h01ger: with ltsp. [19:12:21] * h01ger nods, cool [19:12:28] <pere> h01ger: it is not useful on the same machine. there normal sound work fine. [19:12:43] <h01ger> yeah, thats what i suspected, but.. :) [19:13:17] * h01ger thinks we can continie with the other topics... its good to bring etch bugs back into our minds, but lets move on too :) [19:13:46] <danielsan> alfton_hjemme: please go-ahead for kiosktool [19:14:10] <danielsan> alfton_hjemme: or do you whant to report later? [19:15:11] <alfton_hjemme> well i can [19:15:43] <alfton_hjemme> we found out that the kiosktool that follow skolelinux dont work with the edit of menu [19:16:01] <alfton_hjemme> we tryed to purge the install and install it again with no luck [19:16:11] <alfton_hjemme> so we tryed a bit ugly solution [19:16:29] <alfton_hjemme> installed packages from kubuntu [19:16:41] <alfton_hjemme> and then the kiosktools menu edit worked like a charm: [19:18:19] <danielsan> if i remember correctly white (Steffen Joeris) has worked on kiosk tool, maybe write him an e-mail, as his laptop is broken, and may not follow the mailinglist? [19:18:24] <h01ger> someone needs to investigate this and see what changes the kiosktool from ubuntu does... [19:19:13] <alfton_hjemme> that have been great to make the solution bethere then that we did.. [19:19:51] <danielsan> #idea someone should diff with ubuntu kiosktool package to see what is different there [19:20:06] <danielsan> i think we should move on and discuse that on mailinglist [19:20:11] <h01ger> alfton_hjemme, did you just install the kiosktool package from ubuntu or anything else? [19:20:26] * h01ger favors moving this to the list [19:20:37] <danielsan> #topic 3. lenny - #3.1 cd building [19:21:09] <danielsan> sep is still at work, someone else whant to say something about this? [19:21:29] <itais> well, it works but d-i jumps over our profiles selection [19:21:35] <h01ger> alfton_hjemme, will you send a mail to the list? [19:21:43] <itais> appart from it, you can install lenny perfectly [19:22:10] <danielsan> itais: it's than more like a plain lenny installation? [19:22:21] <itais> danielsan: right [19:22:31] <itais> it seems our udebs just do not work [19:22:41] <alfton_hjemme> yupp [19:22:53] <itais> but you can build the cd, and that's an advance over some months ago ;.) [19:22:57] <h01ger> alfton_hjemme, cheers! [19:23:05] <danielsan> ok does anyone know more? [19:23:41] <h01ger> no. i thought we had a howto how to debug this, but it seems we dont [19:23:58] <danielsan> otherwise i'm in favor to leave this for the next meeting (or the mailinglist) and get seps opinion on that [19:24:02] <h01ger> quick summary: log at the d-i logs :) [19:24:09] <pere> I believe the CD building is broken, and not including the packages we want. [19:24:18] <pere> it produces a CD, but it is not correct. [19:24:43] <itais> not, the packages are correct, they are included [19:24:59] <itais> at least, the last week were included [19:25:03] <pere> ok. I noticed some core packages being dropped. did not investigate, just saw the commit message. [19:25:06] <danielsan> #idea cd build does not build a debian-edu install cd for lenny currently, it installas a plain lenny system [19:25:49] <pere> danielsan: that was the case when I test installed a week or two ago. [19:25:53] * klausade = klaus ade johnstad [19:26:20] <danielsan> pere: itais has observed the same behavoiur [19:26:59] <danielsan> itais: can you rise this topic on the mailinglist please? [19:27:23] <pere> I checked the .disk/udeb_include file, and it was correct. [19:27:46] <itais> danielsan: ok, I'll let my colleague Antonio Ullan send the email, as he's who is testing the cd building [19:27:48] <pere> there are two explanations I can think of. [19:28:26] <pere> one is that the local packages are ignored by d-i. not very likely. the other is that the debian-edu-install package is not build with the proper distribution, leading to wrong menu sequence numbers. [19:28:50] <h01ger> which is the right distribution? [19:29:07] <pere> unstable, I believe. or !etch. not sure how the logic is in debian/rules. [19:29:13] <danielsan> itais: gracias [19:29:20] <pere> it look in debian/changes to decide how to build the package. [19:30:00] * h01ger nods [19:30:11] <danielsan> #action debian-edu-install needs to be checked, if it useses correct menu sequence numbers [19:30:38] <danielsan> should we discuss the rest on the mailinglist and move on? [19:30:58] <alfton_hjemme> h01ger: sendt..;) [19:31:00] * h01ger nods [19:31:15] <danielsan> #topic 3. lenny - #3.2 progress on bug #311188 [19:31:33] <h01ger> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Bug311188 [19:31:43] <danielsan> #link http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Bug311188 [19:32:18] <h01ger> danielsan, thats not needed, if the link is at the beginning, see http://meetbot.debian.net/meetbot/debian-edu.20080310_1902.html :) [19:32:28] <h01ger> anyway, did anyone work on a blocker for 311188? [19:32:33] <danielsan> h01ger: have seen, was to late then :( [19:33:18] * h01ger will ping two blocking ones now: 370332 and 370351 [19:33:27] <danielsan> Patrick did some work, but is busy at university currently [19:33:37] <pere> did we switch to rsyslog? [19:33:45] <pere> it would solve one of them, at least. :) [19:34:04] <h01ger> Winnie has been tracking some others... but it would be cool, if someoneelse could look at, eg, the ldap bugs 370337 and 370343 [19:34:19] <h01ger> pere, i believe not. but yes, thats one [19:34:57] <h01ger> and it seems 370347 is fixed, but we havent made use of it now. (munin-node related) [19:35:19] <h01ger> next point? [19:35:47] <danielsan> #topic 3. lenny - #3.3 ldapify services? [19:35:48] <h01ger> or comments to any of the busg? [19:36:48] <h01ger> are we installing the new dhcp-ldap package already? [19:37:56] <itais> not yet, let's wait for it to arrive to lenny [19:38:01] <pere> h01ger: nope. have not seen any such changes to the debian-edu package. [19:38:11] <h01ger> itais, ah, ok [19:38:39] <h01ger> pere, i know :) that 311188wiki page is good to track such things [19:38:41] <h01ger> :) [19:38:49] <danielsan> any news on the bind front? [19:39:21] * itais has to leave now, I'll send an email about cdd later [19:40:32] <h01ger> itais, bye! pity, i thought you'd be here for the hidden desktop question.. ;) [19:40:40] * pere has been busy with dependency based boot sequencing in debian and have not spent much time on debian-edu recently. [19:40:45] <pere> itais: bye. :) [19:40:55] <h01ger> what was the url for the ldaify progress tracking? [19:40:57] <andreas> itais: by, greetings to wife and children ;-) [19:41:28] <danielsan> #link http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/LdapifyServices [19:41:38] <h01ger> danielsan, thank you! [19:42:13] <danielsan> h01ger: de nada [19:43:15] <danielsan> ok, the wikipage does not list bind9 and the bind9 bugs with patches are old, so sombody working on the powerdns stuff? [19:43:24] <sep> for the record: i'v been looking at the d-i trying to find out why it's skipping our udeb's. [19:43:41] * h01ger cheers sep [19:43:45] <danielsan> move on? [19:43:49] <h01ger> yup [19:43:55] <sep> want to have a working di before i look more at services like dns. [19:44:06] <sep> *poof* [19:44:13] * h01ger will try to think about asking vagrant about fetching lts.conf from ldap [19:44:20] <danielsan> #topic 3. lenny - #3.4 XO & XS hidden profiles [19:44:48] <danielsan> anyone? [19:44:58] <h01ger> i was thinking about two more hidden profiles: XO and XS, which are the short terms for olpc-laptop (XO) and schoolserver (XS) [19:45:28] <pere> as profiles showing up when installing debian-edu-expert? [19:45:42] <h01ger> the XS profile would be quite similar to tjener/standalonenish, maybe they should be merged later, but for now, to easy start, seperated [19:45:47] <h01ger> pere, yes, exactly [19:46:07] <h01ger> (or maybe hidden there too, but i'd suggest not to) [19:46:58] <danielsan> is anyone working on integrating other desktops already? [19:47:01] <h01ger> for the XO i want to build usbsticks anyway... [19:47:12] <h01ger> thats my next question, and yes, itais is [19:47:22] <h01ger> s/question/topic/ :) [19:47:35] <danielsan> h01ger: ah, fine [19:47:36] <h01ger> any objections to adding this two profiles? [19:47:47] <h01ger> or reservations? ;) [19:47:51] * pere has no problem with options for experts. :) [19:48:22] <pere> we should show them when only 'expert' is written on the boot prompt too, if it isn't already implemented. [19:48:38] <h01ger> thats implemented and used for standalone [19:48:42] <h01ger> aeh [19:48:44] <h01ger> barebon [19:48:45] <h01ger> e [19:50:20] <h01ger> so we agree i can do this like barebone and add those two hidden profiles? [19:50:20] <danielsan> great [19:51:07] <danielsan> #agreed holger will add new XO and XS hidden profiles [19:51:46] <pere> it will require NEW processing of the debian-edu package. [19:52:18] <h01ger> why? but i dont think that will be a problem. new is fast nowadays [19:52:26] <h01ger> and next point anyway? [19:52:34] <danielsan> h01ger: do you whant to say something about desktops, or do we move on? [19:52:44] <h01ger> thats the next point [19:52:47] <h01ger> :) [19:52:58] <andreas> pere: what do you mean with new processing? [19:53:03] <danielsan> woops [19:53:19] <danielsan> #topic 3. lenny - #3.5 desktop hidden question (multi-select, defaults to kde, other options: gnome, xfce, sugar) [19:53:20] <pere> andreas: new tasks will generate new binary packages, which will need to be accepted by the ftpmasters. [19:53:28] <andreas> OK [19:53:50] * danielsan is a bit confused today, sorry [19:53:54] <andreas> So this does actually not stop me to process current SVN to fix current bugs [19:54:01] <h01ger> anyway, i suggest to add another hidden question, actually two, now that i think of it again: a multiselect question (defaulting to kde) to ask which desktops to install: kde, gnome, xfce, sugar. and another question, which should be the default one (defaulting to kde) [19:54:36] <pere> h01ger: make sense. perhaps a boot argument 'kde', 'gnome', ..., to select the defaults for those. [19:54:46] <h01ger> andreas, "fixed in svn" is very much as good as fixed in sid, at least in my book :) [19:54:47] <andreas> BTW, I expect to be ftpmaster much quicker now than it used to be before [19:54:52] <h01ger> pere, yup [19:54:55] <pere> 'install kde' and 'install gnome' would be enough to select what the user want. [19:55:17] <andreas> We have just a test case because todays Debian-Med update contains a new meta package [19:55:18] <h01ger> isnt that implemented in debian already? [19:55:22] * pere got to go in 5 minutes. [19:55:27] <pere> h01ger: perhaps. not sure. [19:55:35] <andreas> Pere: That's sad. [19:55:37] <pere> h01ger: it was discussed a long time ago, yes. [19:55:40] <h01ger> andreas, new binary packages trigger new processing for sure [19:55:54] <andreas> I think I'll need YOU to answer my questions about tags in tasks files [19:55:55] <h01ger> (i was just not aware that this would create some :) [19:56:03] <Blankoworld> pere, and if the user don't know what is gnome and KDE ? [19:56:11] <h01ger> pere, i'll ask on #-boot [19:56:17] <h01ger> Blankoworld, defaults kde [19:56:22] <andreas> pere: WOuld you mind answering my mail on debian-edu list? [19:56:32] <h01ger> Blankoworld, and hidden as a expert question [19:57:02] <pere> andreas: which? [19:57:02] <h01ger> so we agree to do this to? itais will (hopefully) be happy :) [19:57:05] <andreas> h01ger: I regard something as fixed if it is uploaded. :-) [19:57:10] <Blankoworld> ok, so kde take no more memory than gnome ? [19:57:24] <pere> h01ger: well, we can agree on implementations. ideas are just hot air. :) [19:57:26] <andreas> People keep on filing the same bug over and over if not uploaded [19:57:30] <h01ger> pere, right [19:57:43] <pere> andreas: right. upload a fixed package and add new tasks after that? [19:58:15] <h01ger> andreas, point taken, esp. in the current light :) [19:58:18] <andreas> pere: http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2008/03/msg00025.html [19:58:26] <h01ger> upload early, upload often... [19:58:28] <danielsan> #agreed hidden questions and boot options should be added to select the desktop to install (defaults to kde) [19:58:38] <andreas> Damn, nobody gave me some hugs for my work I announced there :-(( [19:58:53] <pere> andreas: I'll try to get time for it. [19:58:54] * h01ger hugs andreas twice at least for all his cool work on this! [19:58:58] <danielsan> # [19:59:02] <andreas> :-))))) [19:59:04] * h01ger hugs andreas again [19:59:10] * pere got to go. see you all later. [19:59:16] <danielsan> #idea everybody hugs andreas [19:59:17] <h01ger> see ya, pere! [19:59:25] <andreas> :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) [19:59:32] <danielsan> more on this? [19:59:36] <h01ger> andreas, really, i often thought: wow, "cool work" [19:59:37] * alfton_hjemme hugs andreas [19:59:38] <andreas> It's enouth [19:59:43] <andreas> I'm fighting for air! [20:00:02] <h01ger> :) [20:00:20] <danielsan> move on? [20:00:20] <andreas> Well, we seemed to have switched topic silently. [20:00:50] <andreas> I'll be here for another 30min [20:00:55] <danielsan> #topic 4. www.skolelinux.org - 4.1 see also ToDo-list [20:01:00] <danielsan> #link http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/wwwToDo [20:01:23] <Blankoworld> I see that there's no translation for FR in skolinux.org [20:01:30] <h01ger> andreas, by looking at the list of remaining topics and seeing that list-url there again, i thought so too. speaking of which, this mail is too long to comment on ;) do you have specific questions left open? [20:01:32] <Blankoworld> Is it possible to do something ? [20:02:21] <h01ger> Blankoworld, are you french/living in .fr? and sure, the www team would love helping hands. currently its just 2-3 people, and (afaik) noone speaks french.. [20:02:33] <h01ger> (or somewhere else where FR is spoken..) [20:02:34] <andreas> Yep, I need a description of the tags [20:02:52] <andreas> I guess they were invented by pere [20:02:53] <h01ger> andreas, tags as in debtags or as in? [20:03:07] <h01ger> ah, those norwegian words...?! [20:03:10] <andreas> 'Architecture' [20:03:16] <Blankoworld> h01ger, yes, I'm french, and I know xoswald ;) [20:03:27] <andreas> Avoid, etc [20:03:30] * itais is back again for 5 minutes [20:03:38] <andreas> And, yes, I need a Norwegian course [20:03:52] <andreas> Alternatively I just kick Norwegian phrases! [20:04:03] <danielsan> mhh, does anyone whants to say somethink to the current topic? [20:04:57] <h01ger> Blankoworld, ce bon! :) [20:05:30] <andreas> So we need the inventor of the tags inside the tasks files and a documentation of these [20:05:39] <danielsan> h01ger, jever: can one of you guide Blankoworld to the right list/channel after the meering? [20:05:40] <h01ger> Blankoworld, it has been some time since the french team was active. it would be really really great if you could breath some new life into debian-edu.fr :) [20:05:40] <andreas> Preferybly in the doc file I pointed to [20:05:53] <h01ger> andreas, which doc file? [20:05:54] <andreas> Yep! [20:06:06] <andreas> http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/cdd/cdd/trunk/cdd/doc/en/08_websentinel.sgml?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 [20:06:17] <Blankoworld> I love documentation and french speaking, so it's good for me ;) [20:06:25] <andreas> The link is in the mail below the paragraph about the unknown tags [20:06:42] <h01ger> andreas, i would suggest you translate the norwegian words as best as you can and put hugs markers to the others. pere reads commit diff mails (i think) and should notice... [20:07:39] <h01ger> Blankoworld, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Etch/ is translated to italian, spanish, norwegian and german, but not french ;) (see the translation chapter in there to find out more) [20:07:45] <andreas> Well, they are translated as best as I can (which is nothing ;-)) [20:08:15] <andreas> Honestly, IMHO removing them does not really harm because I consider them outdated anyway. [20:08:31] <andreas> If pere reads the diff he will notice the removal as well ;-) [20:08:36] <Blankoworld> h01ger, thanks. I take a tour on this page. [20:09:01] <danielsan> is this still about www.skolelinux.org? [20:09:14] <danielsan> or should move on / finish the meeting? [20:09:15] <h01ger> andreas, yeah, probably just commit and send a mail announcing the change to the edu list. pere can always still revert ;) [20:09:26] <h01ger> danielsan, it totally drifted away [20:09:41] <andreas> BTW, regarding the auto generated web pages I wrote a short TODO page for Debian-Med: [20:09:44] <h01ger> neither jever nor akai are here today... [20:09:45] <andreas> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMedTodo [20:09:53] * danielsan was guessing so :) [20:10:20] <andreas> Once Debian-Edu pages are really auto generated we should write such a page as well. [20:10:24] <h01ger> andreas, i cant find a list of tags in http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/cdd/cdd/trunk/cdd/doc/en/08_websentinel.sgml?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 [20:10:36] <andreas> Yep, this are the oney I know! [20:10:45] <h01ger> andreas, great, cool! [20:10:45] <andreas> Because they are invented by me. ;-) [20:10:56] <andreas> I need those who are invented by somebody else ... [20:11:20] <andreas> The problem is not the web sentinela [20:11:26] <andreas> they are notz really used here [20:11:36] <andreas> I need them to rewrite cdd-dev [20:11:48] <andreas> Petter had something in mind to generate the debian/control file [20:12:00] <andreas> But I don't know what and don't like to guess [20:12:12] * danielsan gives up [20:12:21] <andreas> danielsan: sorry [20:12:27] <danielsan> i can't follow on what you all say :) [20:12:33] * andreas gives one or two hugs back! [20:12:52] <andreas> Well, don't we talk about free software? [20:13:20] * danielsan thought we where talking about "4. www.skolelinux.org - 4.1 see also ToDo-list" [20:13:35] <andreas> Isn't this non-free????? [20:13:37] <h01ger> andreas, assemble a list of just these words, put them on paste.debian.net and harrass your friendly norwegians here [20:13:48] <danielsan> andreas: i hope not [20:13:53] <andreas> :) [20:14:19] <h01ger> aint we more or less done? i'd vote to move the wiki cleanup discussion to next meeting [20:14:32] * danielsan too [20:14:46] <danielsan> cdd-dev or next meeting next? [20:14:48] <andreas> h01ger: Well, I prefer a quick and harsh solution [20:15:03] <andreas> Well, I have 15min left. [20:15:31] <danielsan> #topic 6. cdd-dev rewrite to cope with different arch meta packages (I need input for the tags used in the tasks files, please see this posting for the tags that remain unclear) [20:15:37] * h01ger doesnt want to continue [20:15:37] <andreas> (Hint for German speakers: D-Radio Kultur will have a nice aufio book at 21:30 about Icelandic Krimi) [20:15:43] <danielsan> #link http://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2008/03/msg00025.html [20:15:43] <h01ger> 90min meetings are too long [20:15:55] <andreas> If you like we could continue [20:16:07] <andreas> Alternatively we might schedule another meeting next week [20:16:11] <andreas> preferably with pere [20:16:27] * danielsan would like that too [20:16:45] <h01ger> andreas, whats your question which is left? but keep in mind you're making the meeting longer for 40 people (or so ;) [20:16:46] <danielsan> as noone seems to be realy on topic :) [20:16:56] <andreas> I think we are 42 [20:16:59] * h01ger really really likes the meeting which are done sharp in 60min. something to count on [20:17:08] <andreas> No, let's stop here and clarify things first. [20:17:15] <andreas> Short summary: [20:17:28] <andreas> I'll upload tomorrow current SVN [20:17:32] <h01ger> i'm fine to finish the meeting properly now and then disucss andreas topic after the meeting [20:17:42] <andreas> Fine for me as well [20:17:42] <h01ger> but we have another important topic left [20:17:48] <h01ger> when is the next meeting? [20:17:55] <andreas> Isn't everybody free to leave anyway? [20:18:02] <h01ger> also its better for the summary writer, to stay in topics and not discuss forever [20:18:10] <andreas> Yep [20:18:12] <danielsan> #topic 8. Next meeting? [20:18:17] <h01ger> andreas, yeah, we are all volunteers... [20:18:23] <h01ger> in two weeks? [20:18:25] <andreas> Poor writer, he will never volunteer again. ;-(( [20:18:54] <Blankoworld> ^^ [20:19:12] <andreas> Fine for me in two weeks [20:19:20] <danielsan> two weeks are fine for me too [20:19:26] <danielsan> same time, same channel? [20:19:41] <h01ger> yes. but 60mins, please [20:19:42] <andreas> We try to sort out cdd-dev issues via list or I ask for a smaller meeting with interested persons [20:20:03] <danielsan> #action meet on monday 24. of march 19:00 UTC here again [20:20:21] <h01ger> thats easter monday, btw [20:20:26] <danielsan> mhh [20:20:40] <danielsan> is that a problem for someone? [20:20:44] <h01ger> i dont mind, but others might [20:21:06] <danielsan> what are the other options? [20:21:11] <h01ger> a week later [20:21:17] <danielsan> on 31th? [20:21:19] <h01ger> a day later [20:21:26] <Blankoworld> 32 ? [20:21:28] <Blankoworld> ^^ [20:21:33] <andreas> That's one day befor Aprils fools day. ;-) [20:22:01] <andreas> March 32th is exactly Aprils fools day. [20:22:21] <danielsan> so, should we go for 24th and set it a week later if nobody shows up? [20:22:34] <andreas> Why not [20:22:40] <Blankoworld> good idea [20:22:40] <h01ger> thats annoying for those who show up on the 24th [20:22:43] <h01ger> no [20:22:45] <h01ger> not good [20:23:21] <danielsan> so? [20:23:29] <andreas> So what about March 25 [20:23:31] <h01ger> lets make it the 24th and asked on the list and decide til next week, if its the 24th or 31st [20:23:37] <h01ger> s/asked/ask/ [20:23:45] <andreas> Asking list is fine [20:24:05] <h01ger> and definining 24th if there are no objections too [20:24:19] <andreas> yep [20:24:19] <h01ger> if there are objections, move it to the 31st?! [20:24:54] <danielsan> #agreed next meeting to be discoused on mailinglist, make ith 24th if no other date shows up [20:25:48] <danielsan> ok, thanks all for attending [20:26:08] * h01ger waves and thanks too [20:26:14] <danielsan> #endmeeting