Debian-Edu Meeting 2006-07-09
The Debian-Edu meeting has been held on Monday 9 July 2007 from 17:00 UTC to 18:20 (UTC) #firstname.lastname@example.org:6667
The full log of the meeting is available at tba.
- Moderator: Petter Reinholdtsen aka pere
Log collector: HolgerLevsen aka h01ger
Writing summary: ?DanielHess aka danielsan
- pere = Petter Reinholdtsen
- h01ger = Holger Levsen
- sep = Ronny Aasen
- white = Steffen Joeris
- danielsan = Daniel Hess
- klausade = klaus Ade Johnstad
- Who can write the summary?
- Status of the release
- status of rc4
- remaining p1+p2 bugs
- release notes and press release
- final testing
- anything else?
- release documentation (h01ger)
- wikibook is a bad name IMO (h01ger)
the ?HowTos from http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/HowTo/ are either user- or developer-specific. I suggest to move to http://wiki.skolelinux.no/DebianEdu/Documentation/Etch/HowTo (h01ger)
- ppc (danielsan)
extremadura meeting in 2007 (h01ger)
- Next meeting
1. Who can write the summary?
- Daniel Hess volunteers to write the summary.
2. Status of the release
2.1 Status of rc4
- The release candidate 4 of Debian-edu etch (terra) was released on Sunday. There are positive reports for i386 and amd64 Holger is just testing the ppc port. Petter hints that munin shows download traffic, do there are people testing it. Petter reports, that there had been problems with the buildds for amd64 and ppc not building packages. Holger saith, that wanna-build and the buildds are moving to isp hosting, so the problem will be solved soon. The packages had been build manually.
2.2 Remaining p1+p2 bugs
- Petter reports, that the slbackup/ldap bug (#1213) has been resolved. The problem was the parallel execution of one script by crond, because the user made an backup copy of it. The ltsp local device bug (#1209) will be resolved soon, an patch is available and will be included soon. The two bugs about diskless workstations (#1180 and #1210) are still open. To solve this bug access to at least two system is needed. One suggestion is to try to test it with qemu, but volunteers with suitable hardware are needed and welcome. A new problem with an "lost and found" menu entry in norwegian bokmål installations has shown up. Petter and klaus have seen it on recent installations. A bug should be filled to track this issue. Holger and Petter have had problems with network installations. Holger suggests, that this problems may not be limit to Debian-Edu but more globally related to d-i. Petter has worked on the minimum sizes of the lvm volumes. This had led to more free disk space which could later assigned to existing volumes. For bug #484 volunteers with an "Adaptec 2100S RAID controller" are needed.
- If all goes well the next release should be the final. Holger suggests to decide on Friday if one more release candidate is needed.
2.4 Release notes and press release
- There are no news since the meeting. Holger volunteers to send e-mails to some people to get the work done.
2.5 Final testing
- Holger reports that upgrade test from sarge to etch are required, as it seems that current testing limits to fresh installations. Klaus reports that the KDE kiosk facility could break customised taskbars with manually added icons. Petter adds, that he has had problems with desktop files that change their locations during the upgrade. This should, at least, be described in the release notes. Holger also reports that there is a project to create code to do automatic cd tests running as part of Debians "Google Summer of Code". Petter asks if the selftest code should stay enabled for the final release. During the development circle it detected some network and configuration errors, which would help to resolve problems with an setup. It was suggested, that it could scare users, but the benefits are higher, so it will stay enabled. Petter reports, that the source dvd is not complete at the moment. Currently around 1296 sourcepackages are included and around 100 are missing. (One can check by running
- /is-sourcedvd-complete in CD-administrator). As this is the first release that features a source media and the source of the packages are still available from the ftp archive this is not a problem which should block the release. The source cd contains isolinux code to make it bootable, that should be changed.
2.6 and 2.7 are skipped because more input is required.
3. Release documentation
- Holger reports that the, not yet written, documentation for the etch based release should go into the debian-edu-doc package. There currently is a wikipage reserved for it under
http://wiki.skolelinux.no/DebianEdu/Documentation/Etch/. There are also scripts to export the wiki to docbook and create pdf files out of it. The documentation should be included under /usr/share/doc/debian-edu-doc/<CC>, where driftbook, itil and other documentation already is. The name for the new documentation is still needed. Petter suggests to go with something like "release documentation" and Debian-edu etch in it. Holger suggest release-doc, but he will think about other good names later.
3.1 moving user howtos
- Holger suggests to split the howtos into user and developer parts. There should be pointers at the old locations to old bookmarks keep working. The moinmoin version used by wiki.debian.org does not provide docbook support. To make it easier to use it later, it is suggested to use wiki.skolelinux.no. Nevertheless it would be nice to stay at wiki.debian.org and move away from setups special to skolelinux. To contribute, please have a look at:
- The last release candidate did still not include powerpc as an official architecture. As we want to release soon, we need a decision about it. Petter points to popcon, which stats that approximately 1.5% of the debian population uses ppc. Daniel suggests that there may be more interest on a powerpc port when commercial software vendors stop to support MacOS on powerpc. The security team should be asked, if they are willed to support powerpc as release architecture. If there are no objections from them, ppc should be released as "experimental" or some other declaration, that points out that powerpc is different a bit different from i386 and amd64 and not yet tested in a productive environment.
5. Extremadura meeting in 2007
- Holger points out, that the wikipage at
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Extremadura2007 is incomplete. Currently there are 4 teams for 3 timeslots. One of the teams is the CDD, which would be interesting for Debian-edu to join. Petter would prefer November as the month for a meeting. Please have a look at and contribute here:
6. Next meeting
- The next meeting is on Tuesday 2007-07-17, 17 UTC (19 CEST).