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|| '''Documentation''' || c14r announces the [http://doc.cipux.org CipUX documentation server] || Less features to document, no screenshots needed ([http://bzz.no/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/lwat/doc/index.html URL]) ||Doc. must be part of Skolelinux documentation || | || '''Documentation''' || c14r announces the [[http://doc.cipux.org|CipUX documentation server]] || Less features to document, no screenshots needed ([[http://bzz.no/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/lwat/doc/index.html|URL]]) ||Doc. must be part of Skolelinux documentation || |
Debian-Edu Meeting 2006-03-15
Meeting
The Debian-Edu meeting has been held on Thursday 15 March 2007 from 19:30 to 20:30 (UTC) #debian-edu@irc.oftc.net:6667
The full log of the meeting is available at ?/../log.
Preliminaries
Patiticipants and their roles
- sepski = Ronny Aasen (logger)
- h01ger = Holger Levsen (moderator)
- k4x = Kurt Gramlich
- C14r Christian Kuelker
- luk = Luk Claes
RalfG = RalfGesellensetter (minute taker)
- rft=Roland Teichert
- binar = Benedikt Wildenhain
- finnarne = Finn-Arne Johansen
- jever = Jürgen Leibner
- pere = Petter Reinholdtsen (joined at 19:54)
- winnie = Patrick winnertz (joined at 20:15)
- mherweg = Martin Herweg
Agenda
0. Preliminaries
Protocol
1. User administration (19:40)
This topic does not only regard the two administration tools as such, but also, more generally, how to decide what tool to use: What dead lines are there; must there be an exclusive decisions; could we offer two different CDs (one with lwat, one with CipUX) etc.
Discussing these criteria, it was decided to set up ?DebianEdu/AdminToolForEtch for further comparism.
Criteria |
CipUX |
LWAT |
Remark |
Disc Space |
CipUX itself uses 640K only, but it draws in about 10M (dependencies) |
LWAT draws in 8M, getting rid of a dependency of php5-cli could reduce this by 2M. |
Probably dependencies intersect. Q: How much do both packages draw in together? |
LDAP schema |
CipUX uses an extended schema for additional features. |
LWAT works 'out of the box' with the current schema of Skolelinux, but could be extended to harmonize with CipUX. |
Less important for new installs, but apt-get install must not break existing data. |
Features |
Rich of features, but according to finnarne it lacks a search (filter?) function for users. |
Focuses on core features of user administration |
It was decided to create a wiki page comparing features. |
Documentation |
c14r announces the CipUX documentation server |
Less features to document, no screenshots needed (URL) |
Doc. must be part of Skolelinux documentation |
Active developers |
5-6 coders, 3-4 authors for documentation |
2-3 coders |
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"Debianity" |
Not in Debian yet. Submission to Debian-Edu was rejected because of some minor bugs (C14r). |
Both in Debian and accepted by Debian-Edu |
CipUX failed to get into Debian(Edu) during the last 18 months. According to pere, this is a crucial. |
There are no objections to include CipUX on a second CD if there is a boot prompt "extra-cd". This needs extra coding of 20 lines within the installer (pere).
A roadmap for deciding on this issue could include steps like
- Create feature table to compare tools
- Create test CDs
- Start poll / voting
As Etch is being released in April (2nd?), the schedule is quite tight for getting CipUX into Debian.
State of Etch Install CD (20:21)
Etch-test is working, Etch needs a update from the d-i transistions. Lwat was not installed from the last CD (missing dependency). Installer asks 2 surflicious questions. etch-cd also needs an updated version of lwat (h0lger is requested to upload version 0.13-1, zobel and white could do this, too).
It is not clear what installer version is used on each CDs: amd64+ppc-etch-test used d-i from testing, until changed by hand. CD1 is full.
3. Misc./Next meeting
We need to have a documented+default backup in the driftbook. Slbackup vanishes with webmin!
Next meeting was proposed 14 days from now: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Meeting