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= Debian Edu IRC Meeting 03.04.2006 =
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The Agenda can be found at: [WWW] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Meeting/20060403
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ALL TEXT UNDER THIS LINE ARE JUST A COPY OF AN OLD PROTOCOL. IT WILL BE REPLACED.... Soon. The following people gave input to the meeting:
pere: Petter Reinholdtsen, white: Steffen Joeris, k4x: Kurt Gramlich, xorAxAx: Alexander Schremmer, finnarne: Finn-Arne Johansen, h01ger: Holger Levsen, jemtland: Frode Jemtland, jever: Jürgen Leibner, knuty: Knut Yrvin, sepski: Ronny Aasen, [-oskar-]: Xavier Oswald, vagrantc: Vagrant Cascadian, mike-m_: Mike Massonnet, C14r: Christian Kuelker
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DebianEdu/Meeting/20060206/Protocol The meeting was limited to 60 minutes.

'''Status report on dak and etch-based daily build. '''
 1. New ftp sitestructure
  white had the following probosal for ne sitestructure:
   * /skolelinux/ -> new pool
   * /pub/UploadQueue/ -> uploader queue
   * /skolelinux/iso/ -> for the iso's
  pere was worried about the old URL's and source.list entries should keep working. write informed that the old source.list entries will work.
  Most of this work will be none in a week.
 1. Package move status? What is left to move?
  There has been some problem with the udeb packages, but it now look promising. It works for everthing else.
 1. CD build issues?
  No cd beeing built, yet. This will be the next issue to look at, when dak is comleeted.

'''Status of infrastructure move'''
 * Backup is now operational on user.s.n, administrator.s.n and developer.s.n
 * Missing LDAP sync

'''Status report on wiki transition and future plans'''
 There was some sub topic to this section of the meeting, but there was a longer discussion on the general topic.
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Debian Edu IRC Meeting 06.02.2006
This is a summary about the second DebianEdu IRC meeting.
A small preversion of the Agenda can be found at: [WWW] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEduMeeting20060206
The following people gave input to the meeting:
pere: Petter Reinholdtsen finnarne: Finn-Arne Johannsen Werner_: Morten Werner Olsen jemtland: Frode Jemtland klausade: Klaus Ade Johnstad pwinnertz: Patrick Winnertz Knut Yrvin: knuty white: Steffen Joeris
The meeting was limited to 60 minutes.
At first we started to make a short summary about the current state of debian-edu .
State of development:
Steffen Joeris (white) announced that there are 3 release critical bugs left where 2 of them are fixed and need some tests and 1 is still open. In addition to that Finn-Arne Johansen (finnarne) said that he will test if the fixed bugs can completely closed.
RC issue:
Patrick Winnertz (pwinnertz) remarked that there is an other bug with cfengine. The bug only exists if no main server (tjener) is available. Then Klaus-Ade Johnstad (klausade), Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) and Steffen Joeris (white) discussed if this is a release blocker or not. Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) and Klaus-Ade Johnstad (klausade) only want to release if this is also running, because Debian-Edu is famous for various features and one is the ThinClientServer which is also needed without main server (tjener). Steffen Joeris (white) disagreed with that and did not see the RC severity. Anyway Finn-Arne Johansen (finnarne) said that it is fixed and the agreement was that this issue should be fixed for the next release.
LDM theme and Firefox printing:
The LDM theme for thin clients and the firefox printing didn't work in the last daily-builds. These are the two bugs which should be closed now but someone need to verify the changes. (Skolelinux Bugs #1035 and #1042)
Missing Kmail configuration:
Finn-Arne Johansen (finnarne) announced that the current preconfiguration of Kmail is not working. The problem is that the current state broke the configuration of the users after every upgrade of the debian-edu-config package. Finn-Arne Johansen (finnarne) reproduced it several times. The problem seemed to be Kmail itself. Although Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) and Steffen Joeris (white) agreed that it is a bad solution to provide configuration for Kmail under /etc/skel for every user Steffen Joeris (white) voted for doing it because the other way is that we have a non-upgradable system. Morten Werner Olsen (Werner_) and Steffen Joeris (white) also supposed to drop the mail client preconfiguration. Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) wants to stay with a mail system solution which is working out of the box (not only server also client side). Then Finn-Arne Johansen (finnarne) suggested to use an other mail client instead. He prefered to have Thunderbird. Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) wanted to have only one mail client on the CD so we should decide which one we want to preconfigure. Knut Yrvin (knuty) remarked that Kmail is in use by many schools. During the next days a few of us will work on this issue, because it is the last main RC Bug which is stopping the release and then we will come up with a decision of what to do. If you want to contribute just come on #debian-edu on freenode and ask for the state. For more information please look at Skolelinux Bug #550 ([WWW] http://bugs.skolelinux.no/show_bug.cgi?id=550)
LTSP:
Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) worked on new LTSP packages for Debian-Edu which are now included in the daily build. He remarked that it will take some time until his changes will be included into the upstream release.
Dash:
Klaus-Ade Johnstad (klausade) tells us that the old link for ash is no longer working. We use it to make it easier to resize lv_usr for /usr. Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) explained that the new shell is called dash instead of ash. So we have to change the symlink by following the Debian advices (/usr/share/doc/bash/README.Debian.gz). Patrick Winnertz (pwinnertz) will work on this issue.
Translations:
Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) asked after the state of the translation for the debian-edu-install package. Steffen Joeris (white) and Morten Werner Olsen (Werner_) said that the translations mismatched because of the new strings for the Barebone profile. Morten Werner Olsen (Werner_) agreed in sending the new translations to the translators and work on including the right translations during the next days.
Release Codename:
Steffen Joeris (white) asked after the codename and version number for the next release. Petter Reinholdtsen (pere) decided to give the decision to the release manager, so Finn-Arne Johansen (finnarne) will surprise us later.
User Configuration (LDAP):
Finn-Arne Johansen (finnarne) suggested to allow members of the admin group to change other ldap entries (not only user passwords). He named shadowLastChange, sambaPwdLastSet amd sambaPwdCanChange. As Finn-Arne Johansen (finnarne) and Klaus-Ade Johnstad (klausade) explained shadowLastChanged is used to tell kdm that the user must change password and sambaPwdlastSet and CanChange is updated when the samba password is updated. Finn-Arne Johansen (finnarne) wants both fields writeable for the members of the admin group. Because of lack of time this discussion was stopped and so maybe Finn-Arne Johansen (finnarne) will write a mail and explains this issue or we will discuss it during the next meeting.
Next meeting:
The next Debian-Edu IRC meeting is scheduled for monday the 20.02.2006 19.GMT .
Personal Comments:
During the last IRC meeting, two weeks ago, we talked about 16 release critical bugs and we were far away from our release. Now we are talking about 1 release critical bug and I think we are very close to our release right now. Thanks to all contributers, you can call yourself a release team and it was fun to work with you on these RC bugs and fix them. Let's keep our good work and fix this last RC bug and make Debian-Edu/Skolelinux ready for the release so that we can proudly announce Debian-Edu/Skolelinux (version number and codename still unknown until the day of the release :) ).
 Today we have the main wiki (wiki.debian.org), and we have one french (wiki.skolelinux.fr) and one german (wiki.skolelinux.de) wiki. The big problem seem to be where things should be put. There was proposals that the different pages is good to build local communitys.
 
 There also seems to be a concenius that pure technical documentations should go to the international wiki, only.
 
 There was a question on where the Norwegian stuff should go. It seems that the most part of the people proposed to make wiki.debian.org/DebianEduNo/. The sysadmins did not wan't to have more systems to maintain on the servers.
 
 The topic was taking to mutch time, so it was proposed to make a own meeting on this topic. xorAxAx will propose a date and time for this meeting, and announce it on the lists.

'''Status report on netinstall of an etch-based DebianEdu using packages available from http://bzz.no/debian/'''
 finnarne has put up a netinstall repo, that works, but there are some issues. They will be addressed when the mirror at a.s.n is up. The issues that finnarne reported so fare was
  * secure apt, we need to sign our apt-source
  * autopartkit, not working for now
 
'''Status of user Administration tool for Debian-Edu'''
 The moderator asked for the status of wlus, cipux, luma and bzzslxtoolkit, but the time for this meeting was almost up, so this topic was more or less skipped.

'''Next meeting'''
The next Debian-Edu IRC meeting is scheduled for monday the 2006-05-01 19:00 GMT.
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Protocol: Steffen Joeris (white)
Protocol: Frode Jemtland (jemtland)

Debian Edu IRC Meeting 03.04.2006

The Agenda can be found at: [WWW] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Meeting/20060403

The following people gave input to the meeting: pere: Petter Reinholdtsen, white: Steffen Joeris, k4x: Kurt Gramlich, xorAxAx: Alexander Schremmer, finnarne: Finn-Arne Johansen, h01ger: Holger Levsen, jemtland: Frode Jemtland, jever: Jürgen Leibner, knuty: Knut Yrvin, sepski: Ronny Aasen, [-oskar-]: Xavier Oswald, vagrantc: Vagrant Cascadian, mike-m_: Mike Massonnet, C14r: Christian Kuelker

The meeting was limited to 60 minutes.

Status report on dak and etch-based daily build.

  1. New ftp sitestructure
    • white had the following probosal for ne sitestructure:
      • /skolelinux/ -> new pool

      • /pub/UploadQueue/ -> uploader queue

      • /skolelinux/iso/ -> for the iso's

      pere was worried about the old URL's and source.list entries should keep working. write informed that the old source.list entries will work. Most of this work will be none in a week.
  2. Package move status? What is left to move?
    • There has been some problem with the udeb packages, but it now look promising. It works for everthing else.
  3. CD build issues?
    • No cd beeing built, yet. This will be the next issue to look at, when dak is comleeted.

Status of infrastructure move

  • Backup is now operational on user.s.n, administrator.s.n and developer.s.n
  • Missing LDAP sync

Status report on wiki transition and future plans

  • There was some sub topic to this section of the meeting, but there was a longer discussion on the general topic. Today we have the main wiki (wiki.debian.org), and we have one french (wiki.skolelinux.fr) and one german (wiki.skolelinux.de) wiki. The big problem seem to be where things should be put. There was proposals that the different pages is good to build local communitys. There also seems to be a concenius that pure technical documentations should go to the international wiki, only. There was a question on where the Norwegian stuff should go. It seems that the most part of the people proposed to make wiki.debian.org/DebianEduNo/. The sysadmins did not wan't to have more systems to maintain on the servers. The topic was taking to mutch time, so it was proposed to make a own meeting on this topic. xorAxAx will propose a date and time for this meeting, and announce it on the lists.

Status report on netinstall of an etch-based DebianEdu using packages available from http://bzz.no/debian/

  • finnarne has put up a netinstall repo, that works, but there are some issues. They will be addressed when the mirror at a.s.n is up. The issues that finnarne reported so fare was
    • secure apt, we need to sign our apt-source
    • autopartkit, not working for now

Status of user Administration tool for Debian-Edu

  • The moderator asked for the status of wlus, cipux, luma and bzzslxtoolkit, but the time for this meeting was almost up, so this topic was more or less skipped.

Next meeting The next Debian-Edu IRC meeting is scheduled for monday the 2006-05-01 19:00 GMT.

Moderator: Petter Reinholdtsen (pere)

Logs: Finn-Arne Johansen (finnarne)

Protocol: Frode Jemtland (jemtland)