1 21:14 -!- finnarne changed the topic of #debian-edu to: RC 2 is out || IRC meeting in progress
   2 21:15 < finnarne> OK, lets start by finding who's here ?
   3 21:15 < white> i am here
   4 21:15 < pwinnertz_> i am here, too
   5 21:15  * sepski too
   6 21:16 < finnarne> ok, 4 people, this will be a short meeting :)
   7 21:17 < pwinnertz_> pere is ill, isn't he?
   8 21:17 < finnarne> we have a short agenda as well.
   9 21:17 < sepski> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Meeting/20060306 (for the log)
  10 21:19 < finnarne> First point on the agenda is "New Release (current status?)"
  11 21:19 < finnarne> Anyone tested RC2 ?
  12 21:19 < white> finnarne: rc2 is in use here in germany
  13 21:19 < white> finnarne: the skolelinux table gave it out to some customers
  14 21:19 < sepski> i have installed it on dual Xeon P4 celeron P2 and not had any issues
  15 21:19 < pwinnertz_> finnarne: i tested it too in school and i it works fine
  16 21:20 < white> finnarne: maybe we should wait one more week and then if there are no problems we can release it
  17 21:20 < white> finnarne: then we make sure that some more people tested it in productive
  18 21:20 < sepski> not tested more then a few thinclients on it tho. but i did try samba and i did connect ltsp servers using netgroups and all works as expected
  19 21:21 < Werner> great that so many have tested it!
  20 21:21 < sepski> i could put in in production, but im not allowed until i have usbstick support on thinclients :/
  21 21:21 < white> what about releasing it in *one* week if there are no more RC bugs???
  22 21:21 < finnarne> We have to fix some isolinux text files
  23 21:22 < Werner> who can do that?
  24 21:22 < finnarne> anyone
  25 21:22 < white> pwinnertz_: ?
  26 21:22 < pwinnertz_> white: ?
  27 21:23  * white and Werner are working on dak :)
  28 21:23 < white> pwinnertz_: can you fix the isolinux files?
  29 21:23 < Werner> finnarne: you have the details?
  30 21:23 < finnarne> I guess we need to do some branding as well,
  31 21:23  * pwinnertz_ is working on abitur :)
  32 21:23 < pwinnertz_> white: where find i those files... I will have a look on it
  33 21:23 < finnarne> Werner: Yes, but I'm kind of tired, almost skipped this meeting ...
  34 21:23 < white> pwinnertz_: some birds told me that you have time at the end of the week ;)
  35 21:23 < Werner> finnarne: is there a bug ?
  36 21:24 < pwinnertz_> white: yes? those bird must lie ;-) no where find i this isolinux files?
  37 21:24 < finnarne> #1027
  38 21:25 < Werner> finnarne: that must be wrong..
  39 21:25 < finnarne> yes, it is
  40 21:25 < sepski> is that realy a RC bug ? 1072
  41 21:26 < finnarne> sepski: I think we need to look into givin this bird a name as well
  42 21:26 < finnarne> and they are releated
  43 21:26 < Werner> finnarne: do you know if we can override the values or if we have to patch the tar-ball provided alongside debian-installer?
  44 21:26 < white> finnarne: except the isolinux files is there some other stuff which has to be done before we can release?
  45 21:26 < finnarne> white: not that I know of
  46 21:27 < sepski> pere mentioned some new packages, but i dont know if he wanted them in this release or not
  47 21:27 < finnarne> But I've mostly afk since we release rc2
  48 21:27 < Werner> white: let's not discuss multiple issues at once..
  49 21:27 < white> kk
  50 21:28 < finnarne> NOone who volunteers to look on how to do some branding, (and maybe fix #1072 as well...) ?
  51 21:28 < finnarne> Werner: what about documentation ?
  52 21:29 < sep>  ''<pere>'' the new ltsp package should have quicker boot, nicer login screen and a few minor fixes.
  53 21:29 < sep>  ''<pere>'' available from <URL: http://developer.skolelinux.no/~pere/debian/packages/
  54 21:29 < Werner> hmm .. we're talking about klausade's driftsbook?
  55 21:30 < finnarne> Werner: and the plone/wiki issue, I guess.
  56 21:30 < finnarne> Maybe we should leave it for later
  57 21:30 < finnarne> sep: I dont think we wil include those now
  58 21:30 < sepski> okay
  59 21:30 < Werner> finnarne: we've slowly started to move pages to wiki.debian.org/
  60 21:30 < Werner> finnarne: the norwegian branding does not exist atm. :/
  61 21:31 < finnarne> Werner: I know, I rewrote the Download page ...
  62 21:31 < Werner> in the wiki ?
  63 21:31 < finnarne> But lets move on to the next issue, archive handling, and take websites at the end .
  64 21:31 < finnarne> Werner: (yes)
  65 21:31 < Werner> well .. we should finish the #1072, but conclude that someone should do this.
  66 21:31 -!- sep [n=sep@217.17.211.40] has quit [Remote closed the connection]
  67 21:31 < Werner> finnarne: good
  68 21:32 < white> finnarne: i can make a summary about current status if you want
  69 21:32 < Werner> white: please do ..
  70 21:32 < finnarne> Werner: noone volunteered, It's bad, but that's current state
  71 21:32 < white> we made some test uploads which went fine ...
  72 21:32 < white> ... i am working on fixing some smaller problems, mail stuff writing a tool to get new accounts without su rights
  73 21:32 < white> ...
  74 21:33 < finnarne> white: but we will wait until 2.0 is released before we will start using it ?
  75 21:33 < white> finnarne: yes
  76 21:33 < white> after the fixes we will start to make cds from dak
  77 21:33 < white> then i write to drift and we fix the last steps
  78 21:33 < finnarne> only i386, or powerpc as well ?
  79 21:33 < white> finnarne: we will have i386, ppc and amd64
  80 21:34 < white> werner is working on the ftp server
  81 21:34 < Werner> it should not be a problem to include more archs I believe, but we have no buildds that build packages automatically for us yet..
  82 21:34 < white> Werner: i am working on that
  83 21:34 < Werner> white: on buildds?
  84 21:34 < white> Werner: and i think zobel and holger are also assigned to the buildd prob :)
  85 21:34 < white> Werner: yes
  86 21:34 < Werner> that is a buildd on a.skolelinux.org?
  87 21:34 < finnarne> then I guess we could try to include a powerpc shortly after we've release 2.0
  88 21:34 < Werner> finnarne: yes .. and probably a amd64 too.
  89 21:35 < white> finnarne: i personally want to have support for amd64, i386 and ppc
  90 21:35 < h01ger> do you think we can do an official ppc 2.0 release ?
  91 21:35 < sepski> i have an alpha laying around if it's needed as a buildd if we'r interested in supporting alpha  since it's unlikely to be needed
  92 21:35 < white> and i am sure that we will have buildds for amd64 and ppc
  93 21:35 < white> h01ger: i think so but after we released i386 version
  94 21:36 < Werner> but I believe the archive discussion/information should be continued after we have released .. I think the info that is given here now is about what we need?
  95 21:36 < finnarne> h01ger: I'll do a rebuild of stuff after 2.0, and see if I can get a powerpc working ...
  96 21:36 < Werner> or if anyone have questions/comments, please..
  97 21:36 < finnarne> Werner: I agreee
  98 21:36 < white> the dak team is working on it and we will give howtos and explanation later
  99 21:36 < Werner> next topic .. websites. I can do a short status summary..
 100 21:36 < finnarne> I think wiki/website status is more important before the release
 101 21:36 < white> so i think we can stop here or?
 102 21:37 < Werner> white: we stop with archive-things now, yes :)
 103 21:37 < Werner> for the international site, the plan is to migrate all content from skolelinux.org/portal to wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu and do full redirects from skolelinux.org to the wiki.
 104 21:37 < Werner> does anyone disagree to that?
 105 21:37 < finnarne> nope
 106 21:38 < finnarne> :)
 107 21:38 < white> i agree :=)
 108 21:38 < Werner> I know there are some "project leaders" that have other wishes .. but they have not commented on the developer emaillist, so ..
 109 21:38 < Werner> k4x: are you here?
 110 21:39 < Werner> anyway we need more manpower to move the important content from the skolelinux.org/portal to the wiki..
 111 21:39 < finnarne> klausade: you here ?
 112 21:39 < pwinnertz_> Werner: i think a girl from our school is interested in that
 113 21:39 < white> pwinnertz_: can you inform julia about that?
 114 21:39 < Werner> white: you had a girl with a lot of free manpower? :)
 115 21:39 < Werner> pwinnertz_: great..
 116 21:39 < white> Werner: her name is julia
 117 21:39 < white> pwinnertz_: can you talk to her tomorrow and give her a small introduction so that she can start working on it?
 118 21:39 < pwinnertz_> white: yes i will talk to julia tomorrow.
 119 21:40 < Werner> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/PagesToMoveHere
 120 21:40 < white> pwinnertz_: fine
 121 21:40 < Werner> pwinnertz_: great ..
 122 21:40 < pwinnertz_> white: i will do and give here a complete introduction but i think she already started to work on wiki.debian.org, i'm not sure
 123 21:40 < Werner> for the norwegian skolelinux.no website, there is a plan to install an own moinmoin-wiki and do some branding in norwegian..
 124 21:40 < finnarne> should we do som cleanup on our "frontpage" like they did on http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage ?
 125 21:41 < Werner> finnarne: do you agree that it is a good solution?
 126 21:41 < klausade> finnarne: yes, lurking in the background
 127 21:41 < finnarne> Werner: I totally agree
 128 21:41 < Werner> finnarne: sounds like a good idea!
 129 21:41 < finnarne> klausade: how is the documentation status of "NewDriftBook" ?
 130 21:42 < klausade> finnarne: i'm comfortable with it, compared to pr05 ....
 131 21:42 < finnarne> so, the ltsp stuff needs rewriting ?
 132 21:42 < klausade> finnarne: acctually it's pretty much out of sync with the upcomiong 2.0, mostly the new ltsp stuff.
 133 21:43 -!- DbD [i=39653@fire.ifi.uio.no] has left #debian-edu []
 134 21:43 < Werner> I'll try to setup a norwegian wiki on skolelinux.no to have a place to do norwegian branding..
 135 21:43 < Werner> white: I assume you already have the infrastructure in place to do the german information?
 136 21:43 < Werner> and what about the french team?
 137 21:44 < Werner> and greek?
 138 21:44 < white> Werner: please make sure to have all devel info on wiki.debian.org ;)
 139 21:44 < white> after we moved our services i will drive around and meet the whole german team and tell them how to contribute
 140 21:44 < Werner> white: of course..
 141 21:44 < finnarne> vagrantc: you still here ?
 142 21:45 < white> so all of them can use the new and old services
 143 21:45 < white> i will also talk to the french team after that
 144 21:46 < vagrantc> finnarne: a little
 145 21:46 < finnarne> vagrantc: could you help us on documenting the new ltsp stuf ?
 146 21:46 < vagrantc> finnarne: i can try. it's hard to keep up with the ubuntu folks.
 147 21:47 < finnarne> or are you still busy moving around ?
 148 21:47 < vagrantc> i'm actually busy with full-time work till mid-april...
 149 21:47 < finnarne> vagrantc: good for you, not so good for us ....
 150 21:48 < vagrantc> i can probably commit to 4-8 hours a week.
 151 21:49 < vagrantc> though documentation is not my strong point :)
 152 21:49 < finnarne> vagrantc: I know your hours is longer than mine :)
 153 21:49 -!- pere [n=pere@49.84-48-28.nextgentel.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
 154 21:49 < finnarne> vagrantc: ok,
 155 21:50 < finnarne> then I guess we need to take a look through NewDriftBook, and see what's out of sync, and what we need to rewrite, and if we should leave something out ...
 156 21:50 < finnarne> anyone who volunteer to help out on the documentation ?
 157 21:50 < Werner> is the NewDriftBook in svn?
 158 21:51 < klausade> finnarne: yes, we should.
 159 21:51 < klausade> Werner: yes
 160 21:51 < Werner> great!
 161 21:51 < white> jip new drift book is really popular
 162 21:52 < finnarne> or is it "NewDriftbok" ?
 163 21:52 < white> NewDriftbook ;)
 164 21:52 < klausade> it's NewDriftbook
 165 21:53 < Werner> noone here volunteers to help out with the docs?
 166 21:53 < klausade> Werner: i do :-)
 167 21:53 < sepski> is it available on web ? i have been installing different kinds of profiles and could look tru some of it.
 168 21:54 < sepski> well klausade would be much better suited tho :)
 169 21:55 < Werner> klausade: superb! :)
 170 21:55 < klausade> sepski: I could acctually need you as an english proof-reader, and technicall. (someone buy me a spellcheker..)
 171 21:55 < Werner> sepski: I'm sure klausade could need some help.
 172 21:56 < sepski> klausade, my girlfriend is rolling on the floor lafing at me proofreading anything :(
 173 21:56 < sepski> but ill do my very best :)
 174 21:56 < Werner> goodie ..
 175 21:56 < Werner> do we have any other plans?
 176 21:57 < Werner> s/plans/things for discussion/ ?
 177 21:57 < Werner> I can inform that the next developergathering in Norway will be in Narvik 21th-23th of april
 178 21:57 < Werner> http://d.skolelinux.no/info/prosjektet/delprosjekt/agenda_developergathering_2006-04.txt
 179 21:57 < white> Werner: cool shall i write to drift?
 180 21:58 < Werner> all that wants their travel costs reimbursed must write an email to styret@friprogramvareiskolen.no
 181 21:59 < Werner> so are we finished?
 182 21:59 < finnarne> ok, should we end this meeting now, or should we decide on the next meeting ?
 183 21:59 < Werner> next meeting is a good idea!
 184 21:59 < white> finnarne: maybe deciding it by vote again?
 185 21:59 < white> Werner: do you have some spare time after the meeting or are you right busy with real life?
 186 21:59 < finnarne> I think we agreed on keeping the meeting on a 2 week schedule, at lest until we release ?
 187 21:59 < pwinnertz_> Werner: by vote is better, since we are here only 4 persons this is quite less
 188 21:59 < Werner> haven't we found a suitable day with the last vote?
 189 22:00 < finnarne> white will you take the votes again ?
 190 22:00 < Werner> I suggest monday in two weeks?
 191 22:00 < finnarne> I have no problems with mondays
 192 22:00 < Werner> 20. of March
 193 22:00 < finnarne> 20:00 GMT ?
 194 22:00 < Werner> Mondays are probably the best weekday for mee to..
 195 22:01 < white> finnarne: yes
 196 22:01 < finnarne> what about some d-i meeting or ??
 197 22:01 < finnarne> some dc6 meeting that is ...
 198 22:02 < finnarne> h01ger: do you know if there is a dc6 meeting 2006-03-20 ?
 199 22:04 < Werner> so March 20th 20:00 GMT ??
 200 22:04 < finnarne> yes.
 201 22:04 < white> ok