DebConf6 - Fun in .mx

There are plans to travel around in .mx around DebConf6, as many of us have a long way to go there, so we could use that for more than only DebConf6. :) If you are interested to join add your name below. The trip is planned to be right after DebConf. See http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20060106.195759.eb272555.en.html and now, more recent: http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20060202.231009.8d1e21dc.en.html

*new* - Oaxaca: http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20060211.171743.e5e32a02.en.html

Participants

*AFTER* Debconf!

Currently most people plan to travel around after Debconf. http://wiki.debian.org/MatejVela

Name

Nick

email

notes

Joerg Jaspert

Ganneff

joerg@debian.org

Danny Cautaert

?DaCa

danny@limehouse.org

Christoph Berg

Myon

myon@debian.org

arrival 5th, departure 28th

Martin Krafft

madduck

madduck@debian.org

I am flying back on the 28th from MEX, 20:50 on LH 499 to FRA

Martin Wuertele

maxx

maxx@debian.org

my flight back is booked for 31. from Mexico City

Andrew ?McMillan

karora

awm@debian.org

While I am at Debconf my parents and son will be travelling around Mexico. Looks like I'm meeting them at Mexico City airport late on the last day of conference and flying to Oaxaca for a few days. Then we will be returning to Mexico City for a few days before leaving on 30th May.

Holger Levsen

h01ger

debian@layer-acht.org

GULEV (http://www.gulev.org.mx/ - an international free software congress), which happens to be the oldest free software conference in Mexico, will be held from May 22nd to 24th in Xalapa, capital city of Veracruz state. Xalapa is a nice, not-too-hot, city, located about three hours driving (or by bus) to the east of Mexico City. Two or three hours more to the east you will find the beautiful port of Veracruz, just in the Gulf of Mexico.

Miguel Hernandez y Lopez

mike

me@mike.com.mx

:-D !

Kurt Roeckx

Q

kurt@roeckx.be

Peter Van Eynde

pvaneynd

pvaneynd@debian.org

I would like to fly back the 28th.

Matej Vela

vidra

vela@debian.org

Flying back on the 29th.

Nicolas Francois

nekral

nicolas.francois@centraliens.net

Flying back on the 29th

Tiago Bortoletto Vaz

tiagovaz

tiago@debian-ba.org

Flying back on the 03/Jun

Tassia Camoes Araujo

tassia

tassia@gmail.com

Flying back on the 03/Jun

Riku Voipio

nchip

riku@debian.org

Flying back on 30th May. The idea would be to see Oaxaca/San Cristobal/Palenque and then relax somewhere. OTOH that might too much for one week and we'll take a shorter trip ;)

W. Borgert

debacle@debian.org

I'll stay in the Ciudad de México post-DebConf: Museo Nacional de Antropología, Palacio de Bellas Artes, Catedral Metropolitana, Zócalo, Palacio Nacional, Teotihuacán, Museo Dolores Olmedo, Museo Casa Azul de Frida Kahlo, Museo Diego Rivera, Museo León Trotsky, too much for one week!

Frans Pop

fjp

fjp@debian.org

Flying back on June 11

Roland Stigge

stigge@debian.org

Flying back on May 27 from Mexico City. The week after Debconf, I will be travelling around and probably staying the last days in Mexico City before departing. Still looking for Spanish speaking people who are planning to do similarly.

Planning the trip

This section is meant to help forming groups and deciding what to really to. Below is the list of people repeated, sorted on their departure date and very shortly the destinations and kind of trip you're interested in.

When you decide to travel alone, please move the line with your name to the table below the "traveling alone" caption.

When you form a group and decide where you're going, please take your names out of this table and create a separate table below the "groups" caption containing just the members of your group and your initial destination.

Next meeting is Friday 21:00.

Name

Leaving

Destination / main interests

Roland Stigge

May 27

Moray Allan

May 27

Travelling with a friend from the evening of 22 May. Before then would like to see anthropological museum and/or Teotihuacan

Christoph Berg

May 28

Martin Krafft

May 28

Matej Vela

May 29

Peter Van Eynde

May 28

Mexico City, Puebla, Oaxaca; cultural, archeological mainly pre-colonisation sites

Nicolas Francois

May 29

Oaxaca, Puebla, Mexico City; cultural, archeological, Mexican food

Andrew ?McMillan

May 30

Oaxaca 22-27 May, Mexico City 27-30 May. Local cellphone # 01 777 209 4115. Staying at Parador San Miguel in Oaxaca and at Royal Zona Rosa in Mexico City. Cultural, Archaeological and Resting.

Riku Voipio

May 30

Martin Wuertele

May 31

Jeroen van Wolffelaar

June 1st

Oaxaca, ..., ending in Mexico City

Tassia Camoes Araujo

June 03

Tiago Bortoletto Vaz

June 03

Kurt Roeckx

June 5

Mexico City, Oaxaca, Chiapas, Yucatan, archeological

Frans Pop

June 11

Mexico City, Puebla, Oaxaca; cultural, archeological

Danny Cautaert

Holger Levsen

Joerg Jaspert

Miguel Hernandez y Lopez

W. Borgert

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Traveling alone

Name

Leaving

Destination / main interests

Groups

Initial destination:

Name

Leaving

Destination / main interests

Before Debconf

Some people have time to spare for a trip before Debconf, but not after.

Name

Nick

email

notes

BenHutchings

Womble2

ben@decadentplace.org.uk

Arriving 6th May, will be at part of Debcamp but expect to have some days free.

SamHocevar

Sam

sam@zoy.org

I'll be in Debcamp but I'd like to spend one day in Xochicalco. Or somewhere else, since it seems a trip to Xochicalco is now planned (DebConf6DayTrip).

Random Information

Before anything else: Mexico has a fame of violence, of being a crime-prone country. This fame is overrated, it is quite safe to be mostly anywhere, as long as you keep your eyes open. An important advise is to try to arrange to travel along somebody who speaks Spanish, specially if you go to smaller towns, as few people will understand English - In any case, you can get along with a very basic phrasebook... But try to convince Spanish speakers to tag along your trip.

Please note that Mexico is a very large country - Almost two million square kilometers. It is also a very varied country, with enough things to please practically everybody (module those looking for a good place to ski). And of course, the following recommendations mainly follow what I have seen - I (GunnarWolf) am far more familiar with Central and Southern Mexico than the Northern and Western parts. Doing an arbitrary split of the country:

Copper Canyon and the Chihuahua al Pacifico (Chepe) train

From ChristianPerrier:

I originally intended a short trip in Northern Mexico before Debconf. This unfortunately will not be possible but I can recommend it to people who love the beauties of canyons and mountains.

You can travel north up to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Mochis Los Mochis], or even better, fly to Los Mochis when coming from your place. From there (nothign really worth visiting), take the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chihuahua_al_Pacifico Chepe] train to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chihuahua,_Chihuahua Chihuahua]. The trip is one full day long. You can also go by bus to El Fuerte, then take the train from there.

An alternative is stopping at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creel,_Chihuahua Creel] on the trip. Creel in in the middle of the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_Canyon Copper Canyon] scenery. You can spend a day there and then catch the train, the next day, up to Chihuahua.

From there, continue by train to Chihuahua and enjoy the city. Going back to Mexico City, eventually stopping at Guadalajara, could be a good idea. If you do so, do it by bus, using the lower class busses, to enjoy real mexican ambience. This is a one full day trip so you must not be afraid by riding a bus for long hours. Spending a day in Guadalaraja can be worth it.

This full trip should need 3 to 5 days, from Los Mochis to Mexico City. Be sure to take the Chepe train from Los Mochis to Chihuahua, not the other way.

There are two trains a day, each way. The 1st class train is mostly intended for tourists: less stops, more comfortable, more expensive. The 2nd class train is intended for locals. Of course, Debianers should use the 2nd class train..:-)


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