Pre meeting log
19:15 <@jever> C14r: no, I submitted no timetable, I think 19:16 <@jever> no 19:16 < C14r> ok,he should ask you! 19:17 < C14r> The thing is the following ... 19:17 <@jever> I looked at the svn an recognized what he done 19:17 < azmaeve__> sorry I forgot... 19:17 <@jever> hi azmaeve__ 19:17 < azmaeve__> hi jever 19:17 < C14r> azmaeve__: youcan try now. 19:17 <@jever> don't worry 19:19 < C14r> azmaeve__: so you are not conviced? 19:21 < C14r> jever: ;-) in this case: no 19:21 <@jever> I know ;-) 19:21 < azmaeve__> hum... so what do you mean by correct src? 19:21 < C14r> azmaeve__: you are using your won debian dir .... 19:22 < C14r> That is why ot is not working automaticall, as like for the other 20 packages ... 19:22 <@jever> azmaeve__: have a look into the paths beside your source path 19:27 <@jever> .../trunk/cipux-addon/Makefile seems not to carry your package 19:29 < C14r> jever: yes, of course not, he is using his own debian directory! 19:30 < azmaeve__> my makfile is in cipux-addon/cat-moodle/ I think... 19:31 < C14r> yes. 19:31 < azmaeve__> but there's a problem because of the cipuxPHP2/cipuxPHP directory 19:31 < azmaeve__> cipuxPHP2 should be cipuxPHP et cipuxPHP shouldn't exist... 19:32 < C14r> ok, can you correct that? 19:32 < azmaeve__> and I d'ont know if it is still important to him 19:33 < C14r> he did this because I sugessted it 19:33 < azmaeve__> C14r: :) 19:34 < C14r> problem (2) is that the build of you package is not triggered by the buildserver 19:35 <@jever> C14r: No, it is, because buildserver scans the folders for relevant buildtargets 19:35 < C14r> jever: he does? 19:35 <@jever> he handles the first depths of folders as targets 19:36 < C14r> what is the criteria for a target? 19:36 < C14r> so the rule is: "a target is a debian dir in the first level" <_ ok? 19:36 <@jever> ok 19:37 < azmaeve__> the debian dir in cat-moodle is from the old package of xoswald 19:37 < C14r> azmaeve__: aha 19:37 < C14r> azmaeve__: and where is yours? 19:37 < azmaeve__> hum I hav it here I can upload it 19:37 < C14r> you are funny! ;) 19:38 < azmaeve__> what's funny? 19:38 < C14r> how should we build a package without valid debian dir? 19:39 < C14r> so we should think about uploading all relevant parts to good localtions ... 19:40 < C14r> So jever for what solution are you a) or b) ? 19:40 < C14r> So azmaeve__ for what solution are you a) or b) ? 19:40 < azmaeve__> oki but what is the good location? 19:40 < C14r> azmaeve__: that we have to find out by our discussion :) 19:40 < C14r> (Since I am not the writer of the build server script) 19:41 <@jever> yes, if we don't want to mix up all future packages, we can split taht up 19:41 < azmaeve__> ok 19:41 < C14r> one reason why I suggest a sub foulde to cat-moodle was: 19:41 <@jever> now we have core and addon 19:41 < C14r> we might have more CipUX moodle modules in the future ... 19:42 <@jever> we schould not throw all future packages in plain addon 19:42 <@jever> so under addon we can split up 19:42 < C14r> that is what I thought 19:42 < C14r> what do you suggest in detail? 19:43 <@jever> there is a cat-webmin and a cat-moodle 19:43 < C14r> yes cat-webmin is a package 19:44 < C14r> cat-moodle is at the moment the "moodle-cipux" package 19:44 < C14r> jever: that could be a good idea! 19:44 < C14r> jever: do you think that works? 19:44 <@jever> but, if it grows, ther have to be a big search 19:44 < C14r> right 19:45 < C14r> hw is the search implemented now? 19:45 < C14r> azmaeve__: that is ok 19:45 < C14r> azmaeve__: do you have signed cipux-commits mailing list? 19:46 <@jever> C14r: for package in `ls "${TRUNKDIR}"` ... 19:48 < C14r> jever: what is the problem? 19:49 < C14r> azmaeve__: here: http://sympa.cipworx.org/wws/subscribe/cipux-commits 19:49 <@jever> To make the script as genius as me ;-) 19:50 < C14r> jever: so do you think a find will do it? (it list up all files) 19:50 < C14r> jever: no this super computer is not really intelligent ... 19:51 <@jever> a find with some array functions will do all we need 19:51 < C14r> is this not to complex? 19:52 < C14r> find ${TRUNKDIR} |egrep -e 'debian$' > build.list 19:52 < C14r> is easier, or not? 19:52 < C14r> you can add a "type" to find, to list only directories ... 19:53 <@jever> but I will not use files to remember such information 19:53 < C14r> oh 19:53 < C14r> ok 19:53 < C14r> then: 19:54 < C14r> BUILD_LIST = 'find ${TRUNKDIR} -type d |egrep -e 'debian$'' 19:54 < C14r> -type d is pseudo code! 19:54 < C14r> and I have no backticks on this keyboard ... :-/ 19:54 < C14r> for b in BUILD_LIST; do ...; done 19:55 < azmaeve__> I uploaded the debian and the patched makefile 19:55 < C14r> azmaeve__: ok, good! 19:55 < C14r> jever: do you need somthing else from azmaeve__ ? 19:55 <@jever> azmaeve__: so register quickly to commits list 19:56 <@jever> no 19:56 < C14r> jever: ok
Meeting log
19:57 < C14r> azmaeve__: would you like to try to moderate the meeting? 19:57 < C14r> jever: will you provide the log? 19:58 < azmaeve__> jever:I'm registered 19:58 < C14r> azmaeve__: :) 19:59 < C14r> jever: now you have no excuse ... azmaeve__ is singned in ;-) 20:00 < azmaeve__> C14r: hum I don't know I do not have good relation with power ^^' 20:00 < C14r> electric power, political power? 19:58 < azmaeve__> jever:I'm registered 19:58 < C14r> azmaeve__: :) 19:59 < C14r> jever: now you have no excuse ... azmaeve__ is singned in ;-) 20:00 < azmaeve__> C14r: hum I don't know I do not have good relation with power ^^' 20:00 < C14r> electric power, political power? 20:01 < C14r> azmaeve__: have a look, ok? 20:02 < azmaeve__> ok 20:03 < C14r> great :) we wait for you ... 20:03 < C14r> azmaeve__: so just follow those steps ... 20:06 < C14r> look 8 lines above ;-) 20:06 < C14r> (you are just reading the page) 20:08 < C14r> in this caht 20:08 < C14r> in this chat 20:09 < azmaeve__> this page http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/CipUX/Meeting/20070625 ? 20:09 < C14r> yes 20:10 < C14r> ok, please proceed with 3) 20:10 < azmaeve__> Let's start the meeting 20:11 < C14r> :) 20:11 < azmaeve__> I can't set the topic name 20:12 < C14r> ups 20:12 < C14r> jever: can you give him the right? 20:12 -!- Topic for #CipUX: Next cipux meeting, 18/06/2007 at 20:00 CET 20:12 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [] [Sat Jun 23 07:18:00 2007] 20:13 < C14r> jever: can you /op C14r? 20:13 -!- mode/#CipUX [+o C14r] by jever 20:14 -!- mode/#CipUX [+o azmaeve__] by C14r 20:14 <@C14r> azmaeve__: now you can set set topic, please proceede 20:14 <@azmaeve__> oki 20:16 <@azmaeve__> Who provid log? 20:17 <@C14r> I can't, sorry 20:18 * jever will provide the log 20:18 <@azmaeve__> ok and who will write the summary? 20:20 <@C14r> me 20:20 * jever = Jürgen Leibner 20:20 * C14r Christian Kuelker 20:21 * rft =Roland Teichert 20:21 * azmaeve__ Christophe Goessen 20:22 <@azmaeve__> so first point :Preceeding of CipUX III 20:24 <@jever> maybe, we should do this point later, when xoswald is alive? 20:24 <@azmaeve__> yes good idea 20:24 <@C14r> :) 20:24 -!- azmaeve__ changed the topic of #CipUX to: Weekly Report on CipuxPHP 20:25 <@azmaeve__> CipUX package is working? 20:26 <@C14r> I dont know, but I guess we should wait for jever to implemnt the changes 20:26 <@azmaeve__> yes 20:26 <@C14r> azmaeve__: so what did you do for cipuxPHP last week, what are your plans? 20:28 <@azmaeve__> so this was part of what I made last week and what I will do this week 20:29 <@azmaeve__> last week I also did the cipuxphp packaging but we already knows this 20:29 <@C14r> ok 20:30 <@C14r> But this is for the summary :) 20:31 <@C14r> then we can find some testers. 20:31 <@azmaeve__> ok 20:31 <@C14r> The developers of moodle are here in Berlin, so maybe we can ask one of them. 20:32 <@azmaeve__> that sounds great 20:32 <@C14r> azmaeve__: do you know the status of the documentation of stragama1 ? 20:33 <@C14r> azmaeve__: do you have screenshots? 20:33 <@C14r> ok 20:34 <@C14r> ok I have no questions for today, jever, rft you? 20:34 <@jever> my timetable gives me about a week to finish work on new script 20:34 <@C14r> jever: cool! 20:35 <@jever> so I have to finish in next week 20:35 < rft> I have no questions 20:35 <@C14r> azmaeve__: can you proceed? 20:35 <@jever> then vacancy at baltic sea for four weeks 20:35 <@C14r> jever: no internet? 20:36 -!- azmaeve__ changed the topic of #CipUX to: Buildserver Lintian Warnings 20:36 <@azmaeve__> jever up to you 20:36 <@C14r> :) 20:36 <@jever> only one answer: will be solved in new script ;-) 20:37 <@azmaeve__> oki 20:37 <@C14r> this week? 20:37 <@jever> may be, but may be next weekend 20:38 <@C14r> ok, cool :) 20:38 <@C14r> no questions 20:38 <@jever> I only can work on it after work in the evening and then I'm mostly tired 20:38 <@C14r> jever: how can we cheer you up? 20:39 <@jever> give me wine, women and music ;-) 20:39 <@jever> might be better beer 20:41 <@azmaeve__> ok that's all? 20:42 <@jever> yes 20:42 <@C14r> jever, we can think abou that ... 20:42 <@C14r> azmaeve__: yes 20:43 <@azmaeve__> C14r:owner of others topic don't seem to be here 20:43 <@C14r> Roland is here 20:44 <@jever> rft: ping 20:44 < rft> yes 20:44 < rft> pong 20:44 <@azmaeve__> sorry I forget that line ^^' 20:44 -!- azmaeve__ changed the topic of #CipUX to: Documentation Project 20:44 <@azmaeve__> up to you rft 20:45 < rft> my tjener is running with a thinclient but he has not internetconnection 20:46 < rft> I tried last week to get an overview about serveradministration 20:47 < rft> I ask jever, but he didn't answer :-( 20:47 < rft> that is the situation 20:47 <@jever> rft: sorry, I didn't noticed 20:48 < rft> yes I think so, I tried to find a solution by myself 20:48 < rft> I've read the text from Petter 20:48 <@jever> did you asked me on chat or by mail? 20:49 <@jever> uuh, hope I don't deleted it as spam 20:49 < rft> I'm sure. I made a little mistake 20:50 < rft> ok, I write you a mail again 20:50 <@jever> thanks 20:50 <@C14r> we will find a solution per mail or in chat. 20:50 < rft> I thank you 20:50 < rft> after this, I will install CipUx and continue my work 20:50 <@C14r> ok, this was "actual status of Rolands infrastructure" 20:50 < rft> yes 20:51 <@C14r> and "what is the status of the project", I guess ... 20:51 <@C14r> so azmaeve__ what will be left ;-) 20:51 < rft> in progress :-) 20:51 <@azmaeve__> and "what fixes have to be done" 20:51 <@jever> there are several ones 20:52 <@jever> 1) pdfexport is faulty 20:52 <@jever> 2) icons for languages have to be better 20:53 <@jever> 3) some minor lookabouts have to be done 20:53 <@jever> that's all 20:53 <@C14r> what is a "lookabout"? 20:53 <@jever> but I don't think that pdf export with drupal tools can be managed well 20:54 <@jever> look at all pages and see what should be done better 20:54 <@C14r> jever: ok 20:54 <@C14r> jever: how we can help you? 20:54 <@jever> so for pdf export a better way has to be found 20:55 <@C14r> ok 20:55 <@jever> there are some discussions on drupal, I followed, so there are people who know 20:55 <@C14r> ok, so TODO is to search ... 20:55 <@jever> I have to be part of that discoussions to get knowledge 20:56 <@C14r> jever: wouldhelp other infrastructure? 20:56 <@jever> and then implement their solutions 20:56 <@jever> no a new php class seems to be the only thing that helps realy 20:57 <@jever> there are some who have done such a class 20:57 <@C14r> If you think, you will manage that, I can consider a server migration. 20:57 <@jever> I try, but first I have to investigate 20:58 <@C14r> yes, sure. 20:58 <@jever> one problem seems to be that the drupal is an old version we drive 20:58 <@C14r> yes 20:59 <@C14r> jever: do you have a drupal testsytem at home? 20:59 <@jever> so, maybe we have to go ahead to newer drupal to get some things getting well 20:59 <@jever> yes, I have, but it is off since some weeks 21:00 <@jever> the investigation for drupal will eat to much time 21:01 <@jever> I have set rss feeds to that discussions 21:01 <@jever> to keep up to date 21:02 <@jever> that's all to this point 21:03 <@azmaeve__> ok 21:04 <@azmaeve__> xoswald is not here 21:05 <@azmaeve__> oki 21:05 <@C14r> ok 21:06 <@azmaeve__> so next meeting monday 2 21:06 <@jever> mom 21:06 <@azmaeve__> stragaman won't be present I think 21:07 <@C14r> if you are present, that ok, or not? 21:08 <@jever> Mo. 02.07.2007 doesn't met my timetable :( 21:08 <@C14r> jever: yes we know, LUG ... 21:08 <@C14r> @jever you can write a mail with a short report? 21:08 <@jever> yes, I will be in TZ in GT 21:08 <@C14r> in the TZ, then you have internet :) 21:09 <@jever> no, beer 21:09 <@C14r> may be you can join for 15 min or so? 21:09 <@jever> no, TZ will be closed, I met nice LUG people not k4x ;-) 21:10 <@C14r> Then you are not in the TZ. 21:10 -!- azmaeve__ changed the topic of #CipUX to: next CipUX meeting 2007-07-02 21:10 <@jever> yes ;-) 21:10 <@C14r> ok, you can send the report. 21:10 < rft> for me it would be ok, 2007/07/02 21:10 < rft> same time same place,same chair 21:10 <@C14r> about buildserver status and documentation project. 21:10 <@C14r> rft: great! 21:11 < rft> jever: I sent you a mail 21:11 <@C14r> jever: I guess it might be a good thing to continue the doc stuff via mailing lis t? 21:11 < rft> for me it is easier in the moment 21:12 <@C14r> rft: easyer as what? 21:12 < rft> as IRC 21:12 <@C14r> well well 21:12 <@jever> rft: mailing list would be the best, because there are more helper 21:12 <@C14r> the network problem is normally a realtime debug task ... 21:13 <@jever> yes 21:13 <@C14r> rft: jever are right, because more people see more. 21:13 < rft> but first I need some basic skills 21:13 * jever doesn't know all, he is NOT C14r or god ;-) 21:14 <@C14r> lol 21:15 * C14r thinks rft dont need skills, he will get skills by mailing list. 21:15 * jever is only a *beginner* 21:15 <@C14r> anyway 21:15 < rft> I think after the Youngstermeeting I will be an expert 21:15 <@C14r> we should gibe azmaeve__ the opportunity to close the official part of the meetin g, we are 15 min over! 21:16 <@jever> yes 21:16 < rft> ok 21:17 <@azmaeve__> so the meeting is close 21:17 <@C14r> rft: by the way we have a real life CipUX Meeting: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianE du/CipUX/Meeting/2C2007 21:18 < rft> oui oui, je sais 21:18 < rft> nous nous rencontre a berlin 21:19 <@C14r> azmaeve__: point 15) is very important!