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20:04 <@xoswald> Im here but will leave soon
20:05 < C14r> xoswald: ok
20:06 < C14r> xoswald: do we have enough time for your report?
20:06 <@xoswald> bahh, I have two things I can say
20:07 < C14r> I guess this is a "no"
20:07 <@xoswald> that's all
20:07 < C14r> yes I know it, but the question was if we should start the meeting.
20:08 < C14r> (Ok, rtf know this now too ...)
20:08 <@xoswald> I think It's not useful since we are not enough..
20:08 < C14r> "only" 4
20:09 < C14r> ok
20:09 < C14r> jever: cool
20:09 < jever> 2) After that I will start to maintain the doc.cipux.org to fix some open points
20:09 < C14r> :), ask me for help ;-)
20:10 < jever> next weekend I will be at baltic sea and will have no time
20:10 < C14r> jever: find a shell for me!
20:10 < jever> this week there will be less time because of preparing vacacian of my family
20:10 < C14r> ok
20:11 < C14r> jever: when do you have time for meeting next week, even if you did nothing ;-)
20:11 < jever> C14r: I've the shell here, you asked me a time ago
20:11 < C14r> ok one shell is ok
20:11 < jever> Mo. will be ok, because family will be gon for 6 weeks
20:12 < C14r> Pearl-Shell?
20:12 < C14r> Mo, how about wednesday?
20:12 < C14r> I think Monday is ok for me.
20:12 < C14r> xoswald: for you Monday, ok?
20:13 < C14r> :D half shell .. Ok, great!
20:14 < C14r> I think it is a CipUX shell ;-)
20:14 < C14r> rft: ping?
20:15 <@xoswald> C14r: ok
20:15 < jever> CipUX is sid, so it is broken, like the shell,
20:15 < jever> ;-)
20:15 < C14r> CipUX is not debian :D
20:15 < C14r> xoswald: jever, ok then wee meet again Monday 20:00h CET,
20:16 < C14r> stragaman will not have time ...
20:16 < jever> ack
20:16 < C14r> ok
20:16 < C14r> rft: what is with you do you have time next monday?
20:19 < C14r> jever: you did a good job with the script :)
20:19 < jever> C14r: What happend to you that you are walking about such a small raceway? ;-)
20:20 < C14r> ??
20:21 < C14r> please translate into simple English, so that I can understand ...
20:21  * jever means: The script is ugly!
20:21 < jever> :)
20:21 < C14r> hehe,
20:21 < C14r> maybe, it looks like shell to me
20:21 < jever> ... but it does it's job
20:22 < C14r> yes, and that is what count
20:22 < C14r> rft: do you have time next monday 20:00 CET
20:22 < rft> yes,
20:22 < C14r> ok, good so next meeting is 20:00 CET
20:22 < C14r> azmaeve: welcome
20:23 < C14r> can you report on what you did thsi week?
20:23 < C14r> rft: you too (after azmaeve)?
20:24 < azmaeve> C14r: thanks and yes
20:24 < C14r> :)
20:26 < azmaeve> I'll try this week to make a good debian package of cipuxPHP
20:27 < C14r> cool!
20:27 < azmaeve> yes jean-charles commited it for me
20:28 < azmaeve> It isn't perfect but work correctly
20:28 < C14r> ok, should others test it?
20:28 < azmaeve> We have done an installation from scrtch using this script
20:28 < C14r> ok
20:30 < C14r> I think the script looks ok
20:31 < C14r> echo "Copying certificate"
20:31 < C14r> it seems to depent on the source?
20:31 < jever> is somewhere described, what cipuxPHP does in detail?
20:31 < azmaeve> I don't think so
20:32 < jever> and where one may need it?
20:32 < C14r> azmaeve: should be good idea to write documentiation
20:32 < C14r> jever: "and where one may need it?" <-- where? On a computer?
20:32 < azmaeve> it's on the stragaman TODO list for this week :)
20:33 < jever> better: for what
20:33 < C14r> azmaeve: ok good ToDo!
20:33 < C14r> jever: Ok, lets see after this week :)
20:33 < jever> yes, but maybe one can say it here in one sentance?
20:34 < C14r> azmaeve: can you?
20:35 < azmaeve> C14r: I don't understand what you're asking for sorry
20:38 < azmaeve> It's a cipux php frontend,
20:38 < azmaeve> er.. au cipux frontend writen in php
20:39 < azmaeve> wich purpose is to manage user ldap database
20:40 < azmaeve> it use execute cipux commands trough xmlrpc query
20:41 < jever> azmaeve: so it is a new gui, like CAT ?
20:45 < azmaeve> it can be used without moodle
20:46 < jever> fine
20:46 < C14r> azmaeve: did you test it?
20:46 < azmaeve> and this will be the major difficulty for packagiing cipuxphp
20:47 < azmaeve> C14r:not personnaly
20:47 < C14r> azmaeve: did stragaman?
20:47 < azmaeve> C14r: I don't know sorry
20:50 < C14r> azmaeve: ok, might be a good ToDo pint
20:50 < C14r> azmaeve: is there a reason why you not commit to SVN?
20:54 < C14r> rft: ok
20:54 < C14r> azmaeve: ok
20:54 < C14r> rft: how is everithing, gooing?
20:55 < C14r> rft: how is everything, gooing?
20:55 < jever> -o
20:55 < C14r> azmaeve thank you for the report :)
20:55 < C14r> jever: I thought something was wrong!!
20:55 < jever> nearly everything ;-)
20:55 < rft> my tjener is working
20:55 < C14r> oha!
20:56 < rft> with thinclient a nice network (thanks to jever)
20:56 < rft> now I can install Cipux
20:56 < jever> so just do it :)
20:56 < C14r> if you write it "CipUX", then you are ok ;-)
20:57 < C14r> rft: make a backup before?
20:57 < rft> and I will learn administrate a tjener with and without cipux
20:57 < jever> C14r: don't care about details ;-9
20:57 < C14r> With and without ...
20:58 < C14r> So cool, you managed to install you own skolelinux network!
20:58 < rft> I think a lot of things are possible with normal commands, when you know them
20:59 < C14r> yes of course
20:59 < rft> yes, now I have it standing here in front of me
20:59 < C14r> :)
20:59 < rft> with the help of the thuringia linux user group
20:59 < jever> the intelligance is sitting in front of the maschine, that's ok
21:00 < rft> do we have an install guide for CipUX
21:00 < rft> an actual
21:01 < C14r> The last one was tryed by azmaeve and stragaman
21:01 < rft> which is the best for me?
21:01 < C14r> mm good question
21:01  * jever will have a smoke, while C14r teaches rft ;)
21:00 < rft> do we have an install guide for CipUX
21:00 < rft> an actual
21:01 < C14r> The last one was tryed by azmaeve and stragaman
21:01 < rft> which is the best for me?
21:01 < C14r> mm good question
21:01  * jever will have a smoke, while C14r teaches rft ;)
21:01 < C14r> since you are using debianEdu
21:02 < rft> you know - my target is the CATWalk
21:02 < C14r> yes
21:02 < rft> smoking kills
21:02 < rft> I will miss you
21:02 < C14r> rft:  I will look in the wiki
21:02 < jever> rft: we are not married ;-)
21:04 < C14r> rft: look at: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/CipUX/Installation
21:04 < rft> ok, mom
21:05 < rft> ok, it is ok for me. and which version?
21:06 < rft> and the guide is for 3.4...
21:07 < rft> on debiantest.cipux.org/sid main there is only 3.2.14/15/16
21:08 < C14r> Only section "CipUX Installation 3.4.x" is relevant for you.
21:08 < C14r> rft: I am not excatly sure why, but xoswald said 3.2.16 and 3.4.0 are identically
21:09 < rft> and where can I download CipUX3.4.   ?
21:09 < C14r> So we developt 3.2.16 and if it is stable it will get 3.4.0
21:09 < rft> not on lioth
21:09 < rft> alioth
21:09 < C14r> ??
21:09 < C14r> As I told you 3.2.16 = 3.4.0
21:09 < rft> ok, I install 3.2.16 and use the guide for 3.4.
21:09 < C14r> yes!
21:10 < rft> ok
21:10 < rft> it was unpossible for me to understand it in a selflearning course
21:10 < C14r> yes I guess
21:10 < rft> you are right, I must be here
21:10 < C14r> That is why we stay here for 24h online
21:10 < rft> yes, yes, yes
21:11 < C14r> yes here you can tell me about you problem with CipUX and with life in general
21:11 < rft> ok, tomorrow I will try to install CipUX
21:12 < C14r> ok
21:12 < rft> and then I will continue the CatWalk, ok?
21:12 < C14r> In the guide there is the line:
21:12 < C14r> "/usr/share/cipux/sbin/cipux_setup -s"
21:12 < C14r> you can change that to:
21:12 < C14r> "/usr/share/cipux/sbin/cipux_setup -sD"
21:12 < C14r> this D is for debug.
21:12 < C14r> If something went wrong, you should send this per mail
21:15 < rft> I think so
21:15 < C14r> rft: did you understand the "D" option? and the *=C stuff?
21:15 < rft> I understood the D option
21:15 < rft> the C stuff not really
21:16 < rft> I hope to understand when I need
21:17 < C14r> ok, great! :)
21:17 < C14r> make a copy of this conversation ...
21:17 < rft> yes
21:17 < C14r> could someone provide a log?
21:21 < C14r> no?
21:23 < C14r> ok, anyway, we see us next Monday 20:00
21:23 < C14r> I will stay online for 1h at least
21:23 < rft> ok
21:24 < C14r> rft: actually I stay 24h online
21:24 < C14r> But I will be not infront of my screen ;-)
21:25 < C14r> Thanks all for partiticipation!
21:25 < C14r> rft do you know how we do this?
21:25 < rft> what?
21:25 < C14r> stay 24h online ...
21:26 < rft> I see, that your logins are on the screen
21:26 < C14r> ok
21:27 < C14r> Do you think we sleep next to our running computer? ;-)
21:27 < rft> sometimes I think so
21:27 < C14r> hehe!
21:27 < C14r> no no
21:27 < C14r> we use ssh + screen + irssi
21:28 < C14r> do you know?
21:28 < rft> no, please explain me
21:28 < C14r> ok
21:29 < C14r> there are a lot of server in the internet, which are running 24h/365t per year
21:29 < C14r> so we use ssh to log into the server
21:29 < C14r> you know this right?
21:29 < C14r> (ssh)
21:29 < rft> I often read it, but I don't know really what it is
21:29 < C14r> ok
21:30 < C14r> "ssh" is a commando
21:30 < C14r> if you type "ssh USER@SERVERNAME" then you connect to sever in the internet
21:31 < C14r> Of cousrse you have to have an account on that server
21:31 < rft> where have I to type it?
21:31 < rft> in an IRC client?
21:31 < C14r> in an X-Term or in a konsole
21:31 < rft> ok
21:31 < jever> rft: http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi#Tips is what C14r wants to explain, when he has finished with ssh ;-)
21:32 < C14r> jever: can you provide a log from today?