20:04 <@xoswald> Im here but will leave soon 20:05 < C14r> xoswald: ok 20:06 < C14r> xoswald: do we have enough time for your report? 20:06 <@xoswald> bahh, I have two things I can say 20:07 < C14r> I guess this is a "no" 20:07 <@xoswald> that's all 20:07 < C14r> yes I know it, but the question was if we should start the meeting. 20:08 < C14r> (Ok, rtf know this now too ...) 20:08 <@xoswald> I think It's not useful since we are not enough.. 20:08 < C14r> "only" 4 20:09 < C14r> ok 20:09 < C14r> jever: cool 20:09 < jever> 2) After that I will start to maintain the doc.cipux.org to fix some open points 20:09 < C14r> :), ask me for help ;-) 20:10 < jever> next weekend I will be at baltic sea and will have no time 20:10 < C14r> jever: find a shell for me! 20:10 < jever> this week there will be less time because of preparing vacacian of my family 20:10 < C14r> ok 20:11 < C14r> jever: when do you have time for meeting next week, even if you did nothing ;-) 20:11 < jever> C14r: I've the shell here, you asked me a time ago 20:11 < C14r> ok one shell is ok 20:11 < jever> Mo. will be ok, because family will be gon for 6 weeks 20:12 < C14r> Pearl-Shell? 20:12 < C14r> Mo, how about wednesday? 20:12 < C14r> I think Monday is ok for me. 20:12 < C14r> xoswald: for you Monday, ok? 20:13 < C14r> :D half shell .. Ok, great! 20:14 < C14r> I think it is a CipUX shell ;-) 20:14 < C14r> rft: ping? 20:15 <@xoswald> C14r: ok 20:15 < jever> CipUX is sid, so it is broken, like the shell, 20:15 < jever> ;-) 20:15 < C14r> CipUX is not debian :D 20:15 < C14r> xoswald: jever, ok then wee meet again Monday 20:00h CET, 20:16 < C14r> stragaman will not have time ... 20:16 < jever> ack 20:16 < C14r> ok 20:16 < C14r> rft: what is with you do you have time next monday? 20:19 < C14r> jever: you did a good job with the script :) 20:19 < jever> C14r: What happend to you that you are walking about such a small raceway? ;-) 20:20 < C14r> ?? 20:21 < C14r> please translate into simple English, so that I can understand ... 20:21 * jever means: The script is ugly! 20:21 < jever> :) 20:21 < C14r> hehe, 20:21 < C14r> maybe, it looks like shell to me 20:21 < jever> ... but it does it's job 20:22 < C14r> yes, and that is what count 20:22 < C14r> rft: do you have time next monday 20:00 CET 20:22 < rft> yes, 20:22 < C14r> ok, good so next meeting is 20:00 CET 20:22 < C14r> azmaeve: welcome 20:23 < C14r> can you report on what you did thsi week? 20:23 < C14r> rft: you too (after azmaeve)? 20:24 < azmaeve> C14r: thanks and yes 20:24 < C14r> :) 20:26 < azmaeve> I'll try this week to make a good debian package of cipuxPHP 20:27 < C14r> cool! 20:27 < azmaeve> yes jean-charles commited it for me 20:28 < azmaeve> It isn't perfect but work correctly 20:28 < C14r> ok, should others test it? 20:28 < azmaeve> We have done an installation from scrtch using this script 20:28 < C14r> ok 20:30 < C14r> I think the script looks ok 20:31 < C14r> echo "Copying certificate" 20:31 < C14r> it seems to depent on the source? 20:31 < jever> is somewhere described, what cipuxPHP does in detail? 20:31 < azmaeve> I don't think so 20:32 < jever> and where one may need it? 20:32 < C14r> azmaeve: should be good idea to write documentiation 20:32 < C14r> jever: "and where one may need it?" <-- where? On a computer? 20:32 < azmaeve> it's on the stragaman TODO list for this week :) 20:33 < jever> better: for what 20:33 < C14r> azmaeve: ok good ToDo! 20:33 < C14r> jever: Ok, lets see after this week :) 20:33 < jever> yes, but maybe one can say it here in one sentance? 20:34 < C14r> azmaeve: can you? 20:35 < azmaeve> C14r: I don't understand what you're asking for sorry 20:38 < azmaeve> It's a cipux php frontend, 20:38 < azmaeve> er.. au cipux frontend writen in php 20:39 < azmaeve> wich purpose is to manage user ldap database 20:40 < azmaeve> it use execute cipux commands trough xmlrpc query 20:41 < jever> azmaeve: so it is a new gui, like CAT ? 20:45 < azmaeve> it can be used without moodle 20:46 < jever> fine 20:46 < C14r> azmaeve: did you test it? 20:46 < azmaeve> and this will be the major difficulty for packagiing cipuxphp 20:47 < azmaeve> C14r:not personnaly 20:47 < C14r> azmaeve: did stragaman? 20:47 < azmaeve> C14r: I don't know sorry 20:50 < C14r> azmaeve: ok, might be a good ToDo pint 20:50 < C14r> azmaeve: is there a reason why you not commit to SVN? 20:54 < C14r> rft: ok 20:54 < C14r> azmaeve: ok 20:54 < C14r> rft: how is everithing, gooing? 20:55 < C14r> rft: how is everything, gooing? 20:55 < jever> -o 20:55 < C14r> azmaeve thank you for the report :) 20:55 < C14r> jever: I thought something was wrong!! 20:55 < jever> nearly everything ;-) 20:55 < rft> my tjener is working 20:55 < C14r> oha! 20:56 < rft> with thinclient a nice network (thanks to jever) 20:56 < rft> now I can install Cipux 20:56 < jever> so just do it :) 20:56 < C14r> if you write it "CipUX", then you are ok ;-) 20:57 < C14r> rft: make a backup before? 20:57 < rft> and I will learn administrate a tjener with and without cipux 20:57 < jever> C14r: don't care about details ;-9 20:57 < C14r> With and without ... 20:58 < C14r> So cool, you managed to install you own skolelinux network! 20:58 < rft> I think a lot of things are possible with normal commands, when you know them 20:59 < C14r> yes of course 20:59 < rft> yes, now I have it standing here in front of me 20:59 < C14r> :) 20:59 < rft> with the help of the thuringia linux user group 20:59 < jever> the intelligance is sitting in front of the maschine, that's ok 21:00 < rft> do we have an install guide for CipUX 21:00 < rft> an actual 21:01 < C14r> The last one was tryed by azmaeve and stragaman 21:01 < rft> which is the best for me? 21:01 < C14r> mm good question 21:01 * jever will have a smoke, while C14r teaches rft ;) 21:00 < rft> do we have an install guide for CipUX 21:00 < rft> an actual 21:01 < C14r> The last one was tryed by azmaeve and stragaman 21:01 < rft> which is the best for me? 21:01 < C14r> mm good question 21:01 * jever will have a smoke, while C14r teaches rft ;) 21:01 < C14r> since you are using debianEdu 21:02 < rft> you know - my target is the CATWalk 21:02 < C14r> yes 21:02 < rft> smoking kills 21:02 < rft> I will miss you 21:02 < C14r> rft: I will look in the wiki 21:02 < jever> rft: we are not married ;-) 21:04 < C14r> rft: look at: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/CipUX/Installation 21:04 < rft> ok, mom 21:05 < rft> ok, it is ok for me. and which version? 21:06 < rft> and the guide is for 3.4... 21:07 < rft> on debiantest.cipux.org/sid main there is only 3.2.14/15/16 21:08 < C14r> Only section "CipUX Installation 3.4.x" is relevant for you. 21:08 < C14r> rft: I am not excatly sure why, but xoswald said 3.2.16 and 3.4.0 are identically 21:09 < rft> and where can I download CipUX3.4. ? 21:09 < C14r> So we developt 3.2.16 and if it is stable it will get 3.4.0 21:09 < rft> not on lioth 21:09 < rft> alioth 21:09 < C14r> ?? 21:09 < C14r> As I told you 3.2.16 = 3.4.0 21:09 < rft> ok, I install 3.2.16 and use the guide for 3.4. 21:09 < C14r> yes! 21:10 < rft> ok 21:10 < rft> it was unpossible for me to understand it in a selflearning course 21:10 < C14r> yes I guess 21:10 < rft> you are right, I must be here 21:10 < C14r> That is why we stay here for 24h online 21:10 < rft> yes, yes, yes 21:11 < C14r> yes here you can tell me about you problem with CipUX and with life in general 21:11 < rft> ok, tomorrow I will try to install CipUX 21:12 < C14r> ok 21:12 < rft> and then I will continue the CatWalk, ok? 21:12 < C14r> In the guide there is the line: 21:12 < C14r> "/usr/share/cipux/sbin/cipux_setup -s" 21:12 < C14r> you can change that to: 21:12 < C14r> "/usr/share/cipux/sbin/cipux_setup -sD" 21:12 < C14r> this D is for debug. 21:12 < C14r> If something went wrong, you should send this per mail 21:15 < rft> I think so 21:15 < C14r> rft: did you understand the "D" option? and the *=C stuff? 21:15 < rft> I understood the D option 21:15 < rft> the C stuff not really 21:16 < rft> I hope to understand when I need 21:17 < C14r> ok, great! :) 21:17 < C14r> make a copy of this conversation ... 21:17 < rft> yes 21:17 < C14r> could someone provide a log? 21:21 < C14r> no? 21:23 < C14r> ok, anyway, we see us next Monday 20:00 21:23 < C14r> I will stay online for 1h at least 21:23 < rft> ok 21:24 < C14r> rft: actually I stay 24h online 21:24 < C14r> But I will be not infront of my screen ;-) 21:25 < C14r> Thanks all for partiticipation! 21:25 < C14r> rft do you know how we do this? 21:25 < rft> what? 21:25 < C14r> stay 24h online ... 21:26 < rft> I see, that your logins are on the screen 21:26 < C14r> ok 21:27 < C14r> Do you think we sleep next to our running computer? ;-) 21:27 < rft> sometimes I think so 21:27 < C14r> hehe! 21:27 < C14r> no no 21:27 < C14r> we use ssh + screen + irssi 21:28 < C14r> do you know? 21:28 < rft> no, please explain me 21:28 < C14r> ok 21:29 < C14r> there are a lot of server in the internet, which are running 24h/365t per year 21:29 < C14r> so we use ssh to log into the server 21:29 < C14r> you know this right? 21:29 < C14r> (ssh) 21:29 < rft> I often read it, but I don't know really what it is 21:29 < C14r> ok 21:30 < C14r> "ssh" is a commando 21:30 < C14r> if you type "ssh USER@SERVERNAME" then you connect to sever in the internet 21:31 < C14r> Of cousrse you have to have an account on that server 21:31 < rft> where have I to type it? 21:31 < rft> in an IRC client? 21:31 < C14r> in an X-Term or in a konsole 21:31 < rft> ok 21:31 < jever> rft: http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi#Tips is what C14r wants to explain, when he has finished with ssh ;-) 21:32 < C14r> jever: can you provide a log from today?