19:58 <@C14r> The CipUX Meeting starts now 19:59 <@C14r> Please intruduce yourself with /me Firstname Lastname 19:59 * C14r Christian Kuelker 19:59 * stragaman Jean-Charles Siegel 19:59 * Idefix Sebastian Friedel 20:00 < azmaeve> Christophe Goessen 20:00 <@C14r> The Agenda can be seen at: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/CipUX/Meeting/20070528 20:00 -!- waaam (~waam@ANancy-155-1-65-173.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr) joins #CipUX 20:00 < waaam> hello 20:01 * xoswald Xavier Oswald 20:01 <@C14r> waaam: hello, you are just inside a meeting, Would you like to attend? 20:01 < stragaman> waaam, Please intruduce yourself with /me Firstname Lastname 20:01 <@xoswald> lol 20:02 < stragaman> waaam, yes, in english please 20:02 <@C14r> anyway 20:02 < waaam> my name is Falvo Philippe 20:02 < waaam> I'm 19 years old 20:02 < waaam> I live in France 20:03 < stragaman> waaam, its ok 20:03 <@C14r> Jever will not attend the meeting, is on the road somewhere in Germany. 20:03 <@xoswald> ok 20:03 <@C14r> Binar is lost in his study ... 20:03 <@xoswald> me too 20:03 <@C14r> So ot is a good policy for those who can not attend, to drop me a mail. 20:03 * stragaman says waaam works on moodle 20:04 <@C14r> ok 20:04 <@xoswald> well, should I begin then ? 20:04 <@C14r> yes 20:04 <@xoswald> ok, I will paste what I have prepared 20:04 -!- C14r changed the topic of #CipUX to: CipUX meeting in progress: oskar64: next stable version for testing and release 20:04 <@xoswald> (1) What drain my time ? Im working with other debian team (Im thinking about parted), Im in the New 20:04 <@xoswald> Maintainer process and have to reply to lot of questions from my Applicant 20:04 <@xoswald> Manager and the most important, I have Uni exam from tomorow for 1 week. 20:04 <@xoswald> And finally something important, my social life with my girlfriend(this take 20:04 <@xoswald> a lot of time) ;) 20:05 <@C14r> keep it short ;-) 20:05 <@xoswald> this is short ;) 20:05 <@xoswald> I continu 20:05 <@C14r> ok, status? 20:05 <@xoswald> (2) Actual status of my work ? 20:05 <@xoswald> The cipux debian package is in a 'not so bad' shape I think but not enough to 20:05 <@xoswald> enter into debian for now. 20:05 <@xoswald> What should be done is to be able to preceed cipux questions and that is the 20:05 <@xoswald> next thing I will work on. 20:05 <@xoswald> On think that I don't is which cipux upstream version is stable enough to enter 20:05 <@xoswald> to etch. If none for now please tag a version in the future and tell me, this 20:05 <@xoswald> version is stable enough you can work on it to get this version into debian. 20:06 <@xoswald> oh, I made some mistake dual thing thinking :/ 20:06 <@C14r> I think it will be 3.4 20:06 <@xoswald> ok 20:06 <@xoswald> (3) My plan for the next week ? 20:06 <@xoswald> I have Uni exam for one week so not that much ;) 20:06 <@xoswald> that for my part 20:07 <@C14r> ok. 20:07 <@C14r> So Xavier say a sentence on the next stable version 20:07 <@C14r> What is your criteria for that? 20:08 < stragaman> what is the problem whith this version 20:08 <@xoswald> C14r: I see in the TODO list lot of things half done and I don't want that in a debian package 20:08 < stragaman> xoswald, ok 20:08 <@C14r> it must be more stable for debian in terms of package 20:08 < stragaman> ok 20:09 <@C14r> xoswald: you are right 20:09 <@C14r> everything wich is projected for 3.4 should be done 20:09 <@C14r> before we put that into debian. 20:09 < stragaman> but cipux is stable , it's just the package whitch is not stable 20:09 <@C14r> "stable" means the API 20:10 <@C14r> not if its chrashes 20:10 <@xoswald> C14r: one think I want is if we made the 3.4 release we should work on this version some times to have a very stable version ( correcting bugs, test, translation ..) 20:10 <@C14r> CipUX normally do not crash 20:10 <@xoswald> hehe 20:11 <@C14r> xoswald: yes translation is very important 20:11 <@C14r> if the strings changed it can not be translated 20:11 <@xoswald> C14r: and when we release 3.4 I will do the live CD 20:11 <@C14r> ok, that sounds nice! 20:11 < Idefix> live CD? sounds interesting :) 20:11 <@C14r> yes I will join :) 20:12 <@C14r> stragaman: if you work now for 3.2.16 or 3.4, for you it should be the same, since you are using only RPC API. 20:12 < stragaman> ok 20:12 <@C14r> The RPC server is mostly stable 20:12 <@C14r> CAT is not stable 20:13 < stragaman> C14r, ok 20:13 <@C14r> stragaman: but you make your own CAT, so it is not you problem 20:13 <@C14r> ok, nect topic? 20:13 <@xoswald> Well that was for my part, we should improve the organisation of the cipux development and not only implemant thing every times 20:13 <@C14r> xoswald: yes! 20:13 < stragaman> so i think i will continu ?? 20:14 <@C14r> ok stragaman please 20:14 -!- C14r changed the topic of #CipUX to: Jean-Charles Siegel & Christophe Goessen: Moodle, Report 20:14 < stragaman> 1) what was the problems => problem with the installation of CipUX under Etch, 20:15 <@C14r> ok 20:15 < stragaman> i didn't make installation like this before 20:15 < stragaman> but its interesting 20:16 < stragaman> (2) what is the status 20:16 < stragaman> At this time CipUX is installed on my pc, and runs under Etch :) 20:16 < stragaman> (3) what are the plans for next week 20:16 < stragaman> Try to « update » cipuxPHP for the new version of CipUX 20:16 < stragaman> 1.install moodle, mysql-server, PHP5 (everything for develop cipuxPHP) => azmaeve 20:16 < stragaman> 2.try to use cipuxPHP (old version with etch) 20:16 < stragaman> 3.update cipuxPHP if it is needed 20:17 <@C14r> ok, so you are going from the old version to the new one? 20:17 < stragaman> this afternoon azmaeve and me have some problems to install php5 , mysQLserver 20:17 < azmaeve> but it's fixed :) 20:17 <@C14r> great! 20:18 < stragaman> C14r, yes we are going from the old version to the new one 20:18 <@C14r> ok 20:18 <@xoswald> stragaman: you take care that you are using the same apache and same way that cat-php is working so you will be able to have both running and not configure apache in another way 20:19 <@C14r> I think there should not be a problem 20:19 <@C14r> cipux-cat-web brings its own directory and its own configuration 20:19 <@xoswald> I think so, but it's so easy to make things in different way.. 20:19 <@C14r> yes, so after installation stragaman you could check if cipux.cat.web is still ok? 20:20 < stragaman> C14r, just to be sure, cipux-cat-web uses apache2 ? 20:20 <@C14r> it can use both 20:20 <@C14r> it dosnt matter 20:20 <@C14r> azmaeve: would you give us a short report? 20:20 < stragaman> C14r, after each installation i try if cipux-cat-web are still running 20:21 < Idefix> it should not matter as long as the webserver can execute cgi scripts, right? 20:21 <@C14r> Idefix: right 20:21 <@C14r> stragaman: once a week is enought 20:21 <@C14r> Idefix: stragaman is famous for breaking things ;-) 20:22 < Idefix> :D 20:22 < stragaman> C14r, hum.....maybe yes :D 20:22 < waaam> i agree 20:22 <@C14r> :D 20:22 <@C14r> azmaeve: would you give us a short report? 20:22 <@xoswald> hehe 20:22 < stragaman> azmaeve, you want to say something ?? 20:22 < stragaman> i make also BREAK dance 20:22 <@C14r> eports might written in advance (this save time): 20:22 <@C14r> * 20:22 <@C14r> (1) what drain my time 20:22 <@C14r> (2) actual status of my work 20:22 <@C14r> (3) my plan for next week 20:23 <@C14r> s/eports/reports/ 20:23 < azmaeve> I think everythings is told 20:23 <@C14r> ok 20:23 * stragaman enfonce son point entre les fesse de waaam :D 20:23 <@xoswald> ohhh 20:23 <@C14r> ok then I would like to mention somthing 20:24 <@C14r> the RPC can now give answers as (1) string, (2) as hash, (3) as array. I think hash is new for you stragaman 20:24 < stragaman> C14r, yes 20:25 <@C14r> in perl this matters, I am not sure if this is different for PHP 20:25 <@C14r> we have API documentation 20:26 <@C14r> http://man.cipux.org/ 20:26 <@C14r> I will update this this week, remind me if not. I will be busy. 20:26 < stragaman> ok 20:27 <@C14r> You should also now that there are new CipUX Task commands, please have a look at: cipux_task_*_cat* comannds 20:28 <@C14r> ok this for now. 20:28 <@C14r> next? 20:28 < Idefix> ok, then i will continue 20:28 -!- C14r changed the topic of #CipUX to: C14r: translation 20:28 -!- C14r changed the topic of #CipUX to: Sebiastian Friedel: Report on his work 20:28 <@C14r> Idefix: ok 20:28 < Idefix> i'll keep it short ;) 20:28 < Idefix> (1) what am i doing? 20:28 < Idefix> I try to install CipUX 3.2.16 on Skolelinux 2.0 (sarge) and document the process. 20:28 < Idefix> (2) status? 20:28 < Idefix> After a few problems with backports and cipux-rpc I'm now struggling to get cipux-cat-web working, but everything else seems to run just fine. 20:28 < Idefix> (3) plans? I don't know wheather i will have much time for this next week, but if I do, I will continue with cipux-cat-web and testing of thin clients under this setup :) 20:29 <@C14r> ok, that is nice! 20:29 <@C14r> Could we help you in one way or the other? 20:30 < Idefix> C14r: maybe when i try to debug why cipux-cat-web fails 20:30 <@C14r> ok 20:30 <@C14r> np 20:31 <@C14r> So we will have CipUX running on Etch and sarge afterwards, this is a good news. 20:31 <@C14r> Idefix: do you have plan for user migration? 20:32 < Idefix> C14r: no, not for now, my starting point is a clean installation 20:32 <@C14r> ok 20:32 <@C14r> In case that; contact Georg Damm on the Mailing list 20:32 < Idefix> lets see how or if it runs at all first on a clean install ;) 20:32 <@C14r> :) 20:33 <@C14r> some questions, comments? 20:33 < stragaman> euh.... 20:33 <@xoswald> I will do some test too 20:33 <@C14r> :) great! 20:33 <@xoswald> I will test sarge, etch and unstable i386 and ppc 20:34 <@C14r> xoswald: with quemu? 20:35 <@xoswald> i386 on a plain debian and ppc with qemu 20:35 <@C14r> jever set up a CipUX build server who was testing install on etch. We can thing with him together automating this process. 20:35 <@xoswald> yep 20:35 <@C14r> ok! 20:35 <@C14r> some questions, comments? 20:36 <@xoswald> next meeting ? 20:36 < stragaman> next meeting ? 20:36 <@C14r> ok when 20:36 <@C14r> next week monday, ok? 20:36 <@xoswald> ok for me 20:36 < stragaman> ok 20:36 <@C14r> for mee to 20:36 < Idefix> ok 20:37 <@C14r> as long stragaman and azmaeve is working on PHP, we should meet more often, afterwards we can reduce this for summer 20:37 <@C14r> so monday 20:37 <@C14r> 20:00h CET, ok? 20:37 < stragaman> ok 20:37 -!- xoswald changed the topic of #CipUX to: next meeting monday 04/06/2007 at 20h00 CET 20:37 <@C14r> ok, do you write the mail xoswald ;-) 20:38 <@C14r> I will crate the page :) 20:38 <@xoswald> C14r: ok 20:38 < stragaman> and i have to write the summary of these page 20:38 <@xoswald> C14r: ping me when you are ready 20:38 <@C14r> xoswald: ok 20:38 <@xoswald> C14r: tomorow should be ok 20:38 <@C14r> But I would also like to say someting what I have done this week :) 20:38 <@C14r> (1) drains: over 30 degress and too many support questions ;-) locale (2) status: work on CAT in progress, missing modules: Userselfadmin, Examadmin, Internetadmin. Not well tested modules Import, Netgroupadmin (3) plans: work on CAT Userselfadmin next week. 20:38 <@xoswald> C14r: go ahead ! 20:39 <@C14r> so some are stable some not. 20:39 <@C14r> Report New/Old Features: In this week I add a new field in LDAP wich include a sorted List of CAT modules. This list is consultesd when a cipux_task*_cat_module command is executed. The results will be ordered output according that List. The goal is, that user can decide in cipuxadmin module the order of CAT module. That was a wish by some users. 20:39 <@xoswald> great 20:39 <@C14r> this is not realy new. it is just a beter ,ethod wich was possible in 3.0.0 20:40 <@C14r> Translation: The translation can be started, when the first modules of CAT are stable. But on my Etch it is not posible to set the locale to de for example. But this is possible for root. So if anyone can help in debugging this, this would be great. 20:40 <@C14r> Do someone have knowledge about locale? 20:41 < stragaman> no 20:41 <@C14r> :/ 20:41 <@C14r> So we have to fix that somehow under etch 20:41 < Idefix> C14r: maybe we find some time for this when i'm at berlin starting of tomorrow ;) 20:41 <@C14r> Idefix: if you have cat warking, you can tell us if you can switch it to German? 20:42 <@C14r> Idefix: ok! 20:42 <@C14r> Idefix: you are in LinuxTag? 20:42 < Idefix> C14r: sure ;) 20:42 <@xoswald> C14r: I don't understant your locale problem ! 20:42 <@C14r> So we can meet :) 20:42 <@C14r> xoswald: set locale to C is working for root and apache user 20:43 <@C14r> set to "de" is working for root, but not for apache user 20:43 <@C14r> so the webserver user cant set the locate for teh CGI 20:43 <@xoswald> It's linked to your browser I think 20:44 <@C14r> My browser is on a different machine ... 20:44 <@xoswald> the right way is to set up the browser with the locale you want, it's not depending with the system 20:44 -!- waaam is now known as waam 20:45 <@C14r> xoswald: well, that is not the wy it works for CGIs 20:45 <@C14r> If you are on Japanese System but want have a German CAT, you should just be able to choose it. 20:45 <@C14r> Then the CGI sets the locale 20:46 <@xoswald> ok, yes I have not remember cgi's things :/ 20:46 <@xoswald> but maybe this is not related to cipux 20:46 <@C14r> Yes so there is languages choose in CAT (now). 20:47 <@C14r> No may be not, but I cant test language on etch ... 20:47 <@C14r> Ok, I think the problem is more or less clear, so we can close the meeting? 20:47 <@xoswald> C14r: I will test this problem .. 20:47 <@C14r> ok 20:47 <@C14r> please a.s.p. 20:48 <@xoswald> oh 20:48 <@xoswald> hmm 20:48 <@C14r> Idefix: you are welcome too, xoswald has no much time this week ;-) 20:48 <@xoswald> stragaman: maybe you could have a look 20:48 <@xoswald> you have lot of time for cipux every days 20:48 < Idefix> C14r: well i have no etch running here somwhere, so its a little difficult 20:49 <@C14r> Idefix: if this is solved with sarge, this is a important information! 20:49 <@xoswald> stragaman: and azmaeve could have a look together maybe 20:49 < stragaman> xoswald, about langague ?? 20:49 <@xoswald> yes, the langage problem 20:49 <@C14r> Idefix: no etch for you nessary at the moment :) 20:49 < Idefix> C14r: i will try to switch locales on sarge once i get cat-web working 20:50 < stragaman> ok 20:50 <@C14r> Idefix: yes exactly :) 20:50 <@C14r> It could also be the same bug on sarge ... 20:50 <@C14r> ok, are we ready with the meeting, we can continue talking or course? 20:51 <@C14r> no objections? 20:51 <@xoswald> ok 20:52 <@C14r> ok 20:52 <@C14r> Good ... thank you for you attendence! Good work! Meeting is over.
