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Mrz 28 20:08:15 <binar> so, please everybody introduce hisself with "nick = Realname"
Mrz 28 20:08:21 *       jever = Juergen Leibner
Mrz 28 20:08:32 *       C14r = Christian Kuelker
Mrz 28 20:08:33 <binar> binar = Benedikt Wildenhain
Mrz 28 20:08:47 <rft>   rft=Roland Teichert
Mrz 28 20:08:59 *       binar hat das Thema geändert zu: 1. Topic: CAT Demoserver
Mrz 28 20:09:36 <binar> what's happend about this since the last meeting?
Mrz 28 20:10:56 <jever> ok, there is a demo server now available
Mrz 28 20:10:59 <binar> k4x = Kurt Gramlich (via audio relay by me)
Mrz 28 20:11:19 <rft>   demoserver is working
Mrz 28 20:11:35 <C14r>  Nice :)
Mrz 28 20:11:43 <binar> indeed :-)
Mrz 28 20:11:59 <rft>   and I can write the catwalk
Mrz 28 20:12:01 <jever> the demoserver is on build 872
Mrz 28 20:12:58 <binar> is it automatically updated?
Mrz 28 20:13:11 <jever> it's a real maschine and is running debian-edu etch on last upgrade
Mrz 28 20:13:22 <C14r>  interesting question!
Mrz 28 20:13:27 <jever> it is maintained manual
Mrz 28 20:13:33 <jever> by me
Mrz 28 20:13:52 <jever> it also runs lwat
Mrz 28 20:13:58 *       C14r thinks the answer is "yes"
Mrz 28 20:14:24 <jever> because it comes with debian-edu automaticaly
Mrz 28 20:15:07 <jever> but it is unused by me
Mrz 28 20:15:20 <C14r>  by mee too! ;-)
Mrz 28 20:15:46 <jever> but it gives a hint that they can coexist
Mrz 28 20:16:31 <C14r>  So should we make this demo server public?
Mrz 28 20:18:01 <jever> I think not, because it is not an automatic system an it is @home and there is only an upload by dsl of 256kB
Mrz 28 20:19:31 <C14r>  aha, what can we do make it public? (1) the automatic system thing ...?
Mrz 28 20:19:39 <binar> sorry, my network connection was broken
Mrz 28 20:19:41 <jever> I think it should be only for documentation team
Mrz 28 20:20:38 <C14r>  yes I under stand that this specific system is for documention team.
Mrz 28 20:20:57 <C14r>  But would it be not a good idea to have a public demo server?
Mrz 28 20:21:14 <jever> if someone makes a demoserver available in internet and it is an automatic system, then it can be published, I think
Mrz 28 20:21:52 <C14r>  Could the Testcenter in GT help us?
Mrz 28 20:22:07 <C14r>  oskar64: how about you?
Mrz 28 20:22:46 <binar> k4x says, that in principle he could offer a machine
Mrz 28 20:23:01 <C14r>  ok, nice!
Mrz 28 20:23:33 <C14r>  jever, would you lead a team (with me for example) to make this dream true?
Mrz 28 20:24:35 <jever> yes, but the startpoint can only be in the middle of next week because of overload at work
Mrz 28 20:25:30 <C14r>  jever: ok, good that we do it!
Mrz 28 20:25:36 <C14r>  who wants to join?
Mrz 28 20:25:57 <C14r>  (but 2 are also ok)
Mrz 28 20:25:59 <binar> k4x
Mrz 28 20:26:04 <binar> wants to join
Mrz 28 20:26:19 <C14r>  ok, then jever, k4x, and C14r
Mrz 28 20:26:19 *       jever wants that k4x joins
Mrz 28 20:26:27 <C14r>  :)
Mrz 28 20:26:48 <binar> next topic?
Mrz 28 20:26:53 <jever> ok, then we are enough
Mrz 28 20:27:13 <jever> binar: ack
Mrz 28 20:27:52 <C14r>  http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/CipUX/Demoserver
Mrz 28 20:28:04 <C14r>  binar: ok, next (i added one ;-) )
Mrz 28 20:28:21 *       binar hat das Thema geändert zu: 2. Topic: locale system (i18n/i10n): translations
Mrz 28 20:28:38 <C14r>  ok, I can tell something.
Mrz 28 20:29:05 <C14r>  I change noumerous files the exchange the Template system of CAT
Mrz 28 20:29:21 <C14r>  Now it is possible to exctract the strings from the templates
Mrz 28 20:29:35 <C14r>  when this strings are extracted we can translate them 
Mrz 28 20:29:53 <C14r>  (po files, with kbabel, or poedit, or whatever)
Mrz 28 20:30:24 <C14r>  The po system Makefiles are not finshed jet, but the will thes evening or tomorrow
Mrz 28 20:30:47 <C14r>  We should take the "default" theme as a starting point
Mrz 28 20:31:33 <binar> what has to be done? do we have translators?
Mrz 28 20:31:36 <C14r>  Please korrect the English on the default theme, so that we have nice message id strings!
Mrz 28 20:32:09 <C14r>  binar: yes we have translators. me for German ;-) and Kaplan for hebrew, and may by xavier for french ;-)
Mrz 28 20:32:21 <C14r>  kaplan agreed
Mrz 28 20:32:41 <C14r>  But I would like to make a test with german first
Mrz 28 20:33:13 <C14r>  To do that, it is VERY important that there are no Language errors on the english theme
Mrz 28 20:33:19 <binar> agreed
Mrz 28 20:33:23 <C14r>  rft: can you report errors?
Mrz 28 20:33:31 <C14r>  (if you found one)
Mrz 28 20:33:50 <rft>   yes:)
Mrz 28 20:33:58 <C14r>  if possible, also a native should look at that!
Mrz 28 20:34:04 <C14r>  do someone know one?
Mrz 28 20:35:15 <jever> no
Mrz 28 20:35:21 <C14r>  The translation is about 170 strings
Mrz 28 20:35:32 <C14r>  mostly words
Mrz 28 20:35:45 <binar> k4x knows a native speaker, who could do that
Mrz 28 20:35:45 <C14r>  k4x: ?
Mrz 28 20:35:52 <C14r>  oh, nice
Mrz 28 20:36:10 <k4x>   re
Mrz 28 20:36:17 <jever> that's not much, so I can ask our chief secratry at work
Mrz 28 20:36:23 <C14r>  binar can you print that out, or mail that, or do whatevery is nessesary? or k4x can ou?
Mrz 28 20:37:01 <C14r>  jever. ok, but is computer english ;-)
Mrz 28 20:37:17 <jever> no problem for her
Mrz 28 20:37:34 <binar> C14r: is there a simple list, which you can use for that?
Mrz 28 20:37:43 <C14r>  biner?
Mrz 28 20:37:47 <C14r>  binar: ?
Mrz 28 20:37:49 <jever> she lives in toronto ;-)
Mrz 28 20:38:13 <binar> C14r: a list of the to be translated strings
Mrz 28 20:38:23 <k4x>   who will ask our english helper?
Mrz 28 20:38:28 <C14r>  oh yes, that is what i am working on
Mrz 28 20:38:35 <C14r>  k4x: me?
Mrz 28 20:38:41 <binar> btw. whe have to decide whether we use british or american english
Mrz 28 20:38:50 <k4x>   ok, you get email with adress
Mrz 28 20:39:15 <C14r>  k4x: in that case: you!
Mrz 28 20:39:43 <C14r>  binar: why?
Mrz 28 20:40:06 <C14r>  binar: lets see who correct that
Mrz 28 20:40:25 <binar> because what is correct in british englisch can be wrong in american and vis-versa
Mrz 28 20:40:34 <C14r>  binar: yes
Mrz 28 20:40:39 <k4x>   C14r: you have mail ;-)
Mrz 28 20:41:15 <C14r>  binar: But I can not decide to use british english if the one who corrects is american.
Mrz 28 20:41:30 <C14r>  binar: or should we?
Mrz 28 20:41:42 <k4x>   C14r: Stephan will do it, he knows it
Mrz 28 20:41:57 <C14r>  Joerris?
Mrz 28 20:42:05 <k4x>   C14r: EMAIL!
Mrz 28 20:42:08 <C14r>  ok
Mrz 28 20:42:54 <C14r>  ok now we have to opportunities to correct
Mrz 28 20:42:59 <C14r>  to=two
Mrz 28 20:43:31 <C14r>  which one should we ask first?
Mrz 28 20:43:40 <k4x>   StStephan has corrected a lot of debian-edu pages in debin wiki
Mrz 28 20:44:08 <C14r>  k4x: yes. And the problem is that CAT is not a online page
Mrz 28 20:44:33 <C14r>  but jever if you agree we can offer him or her the demo server?
Mrz 28 20:44:50 <k4x>   then send him the page, ask and take tahat one who answers first 
Mrz 28 20:45:02 <jever> it is documentation, so you can do that
Mrz 28 20:45:13 <C14r>  ok
Mrz 28 20:45:32 <C14r>  but there are error messages, which are not easy to produce!
Mrz 28 20:45:54 <C14r>  if will send the first draft of strings to the list, is that ok?
Mrz 28 20:46:45 <binar> yes
Mrz 28 20:46:49 <C14r>  ok
Mrz 28 20:47:00 <C14r>  then we discuss that on the list?
Mrz 28 20:47:15 <jever> ack
Mrz 28 20:47:28 <C14r>  ok, send today at 23:00
Mrz 28 20:47:46 <binar> ok, next topic?
Mrz 28 20:47:51 <C14r>  do someone else know translators?
Mrz 28 20:47:55 <jever> yes, please
Mrz 28 20:48:05 <C14r>  well ok
Mrz 28 20:48:18 <jever> only expensive professionals ;-)
Mrz 28 20:48:21 <binar> I could ask one for slovakian, but I am not sure, how reliable he is
Mrz 28 20:48:37 <C14r>  binar: asking is not to much.
Mrz 28 20:49:02 <C14r>  next?
Mrz 28 20:49:13 *       binar hat das Thema geändert zu: 3. Topic: cipux-commits
Mrz 28 20:49:48 <binar> C14r: what do you mean with that?
Mrz 28 20:49:54 <C14r>  Happy to announce that we have commit list: cipux-commits@cipux.org
Mrz 28 20:50:02 <binar> ah, nice
Mrz 28 20:50:07 <C14r>  the svn commit logs are send to that list
Mrz 28 20:50:24 <C14r>  and if jever agrees also the build logs ?
Mrz 28 20:50:25 <jever> my question is, if I can purge the mailrecipients in build logs and only send to commits-list?
Mrz 28 20:50:40 <C14r>  jes that I was suggesting
Mrz 28 20:50:59 <C14r>  jever: is that ok for you?
Mrz 28 20:50:59 <jever> then say it and suggust not so much ;-9
Mrz 28 20:51:11 <C14r>  :)
Mrz 28 20:51:28 <jever> btw. it is done already
Mrz 28 20:51:35 <C14r>  (I wrote a e-mail to you no answer)
Mrz 28 20:51:36 <C14r>  ok
Mrz 28 20:51:46 <binar> ok, any other topics?
Mrz 28 20:51:59 <C14r>  so everybody who whats to know , can sing up:
Mrz 28 20:52:13 <binar> C14r: you do not want to hear my sing
Mrz 28 20:52:37 <C14r>  sign! :)
Mrz 28 20:53:23 <C14r>  no toppic left I think, but I would like to know how we can help rft?
Mrz 28 20:53:46 <rft>   ok
Mrz 28 20:54:03 <rft>   3 questions :-)
Mrz 28 20:54:04 <C14r>  http://sympa.cipworx.org/wws/subscribe/cipux-commits
Mrz 28 20:56:00 <C14r>  yes and?
Mrz 28 20:56:21 <C14r>  (new or old ones)
Mrz 28 20:56:21 <k4x>   rft: go on!
Mrz 28 20:56:31 <rft>   modul tutoradmin: list member doesn't work
Mrz 28 20:57:10 <rft>   it doesn't show any member
Mrz 28 20:57:26 <C14r>  do the group have members?
Mrz 28 20:57:54 <rft>   yes, i've create them
Mrz 28 20:58:16 <rft>   there is one member in the group
Mrz 28 20:58:16 <C14r>  ok (list member doesn't work any more)
Mrz 28 20:59:05 <binar> rft: next question
Mrz 28 20:59:07 <C14r>  rft, can you add that Todo point to: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/CipUX/ToDo
Mrz 28 20:59:21 <rft>   ok
Mrz 28 20:59:25 <rft>   next?
Mrz 28 20:59:32 <C14r>  rft, if that is the case we must fix that.
Mrz 28 20:59:43 <C14r>  rft, yes we beleve you ;-)
Mrz 28 21:00:28 <rft>   you can login and look if I made a mistake
Mrz 28 21:01:24 <jever> rft: if you can make a mistake there, it isn't ok by the system to let you make it ;-)
Mrz 28 21:01:28 <rft>   I have no idea what you mean with the green point that change the colour to red - named Linux - in modul useradmin
Mrz 28 21:01:49 <C14r>  oh good question!
Mrz 28 21:02:28 <binar> rft: green point -> you can login via a terminalserver or workstation, green point -> you cannot
Mrz 28 21:02:37 <binar> inversed!
Mrz 28 21:02:42 <binar> no
Mrz 28 21:02:45 <C14r>  hehe!
Mrz 28 21:02:46 <binar> rft: green point -> you can login via a terminalserver or workstation, red point -> you cannot
Mrz 28 21:03:27 *       C14r likes green and red points
Mrz 28 21:04:01 <rft>   ok, I think I understood
Mrz 28 21:04:12 <jever> what means: "login" here
Mrz 28 21:04:40 <rft>   I think login from a client?
Mrz 28 21:04:58 <C14r>  rft: if you have sugesstion to make that better, tell us! (this questions are VERY important, the should be answerde in CatWalk)
Mrz 28 21:04:58 <binar> rft: yes
Mrz 28 21:04:59 <jever> or per shell?
Mrz 28 21:05:22 <C14r>  jever is there a login possible without shell?
Mrz 28 21:05:22 <binar> jever: should also work as well as su or other means
Mrz 28 21:05:35 <C14r>  yes or ssh
Mrz 28 21:06:27 <C14r>  So if a student has a red accoutn he can go home
Mrz 28 21:06:53 <binar> C14r: or use windows machines (via samba), can't he?
Mrz 28 21:07:06 <C14r>  no he can use that
Mrz 28 21:07:15 <C14r>  ups, sorry
Mrz 28 21:07:17 <jever> if I click a green point, it's a link, there happens nothing
Mrz 28 21:07:19 <C14r>  yes he can use that
Mrz 28 21:07:50 <C14r>  jever: yes for me in my test machine too. But rft says it does do something.
Mrz 28 21:08:18 <jever> shouldn't it switch to red?
Mrz 28 21:08:18 <rft>   when I click it becomes red or green
Mrz 28 21:08:34 <C14r>  rft: yes that should happen! perfectly!
Mrz 28 21:09:15 <C14r>  jever may be you dont use the right power to click! ;-)
Mrz 28 21:09:22 <binar> jever: ok, the problem on your system can be checked later
Mrz 28 21:09:22 <jever> here it doesn't :-)
Mrz 28 21:09:31 <C14r>  binar: ok
Mrz 28 21:09:33 <binar> rft: 3rd question?
Mrz 28 21:09:33 <jever> as cipadmin
Mrz 28 21:09:52 <rft>   will the tutor has the right to click on it or only the admin?
Mrz 28 21:10:30 <C14r>  if the role "tutor" is assigned to the CAT module "useradmin" he can use very function in "unseradmin"
Mrz 28 21:10:52 <binar> C14r: very=every
Mrz 28 21:10:53 <rft>   ok, but in the moment I can't test it
Mrz 28 21:11:02 <rft>   ok, 3 rd
Mrz 28 21:11:02 <C14r>  yes, right
Mrz 28 21:11:17 <rft>   in create new student
Mrz 28 21:11:28 <rft>   template directory
Mrz 28 21:11:54 <rft>   I have a popup with a lot of different possibilities
Mrz 28 21:12:07 <rft>   I don't understand the idea behind this
Mrz 28 21:13:08 *       jever doesn't understand that too
Mrz 28 21:14:24 <binar> I think these are customizable kind of customizable /etc/skel-dirs, which you can choose from
Mrz 28 21:15:09 <binar> C14r: correct?
Mrz 28 21:15:12 <C14r>  "template directory" = Vorlage Verzeichnis
Mrz 28 21:15:27 <C14r>  binar: yes, but do rft understand this?
Mrz 28 21:15:37 <binar> C14r: don't know
Mrz 28 21:15:46 <C14r>  rft: do you?
Mrz 28 21:15:49 <rft>   the same says my oxford dictionnary
Mrz 28 21:16:14 *       C14r thinks that I am an Oxford Dictionary
Mrz 28 21:16:43 <binar> rft: there are usually certain files you want to have in your just created home-directories, which these templates you can specify which ones
Mrz 28 21:16:43 <rft>   what is the relation between examination, tutor, teacher,skel, course, noskel...
Mrz 28 21:17:16 <C14r>  rft: (next good question!)
Mrz 28 21:18:10 <rft>   when i create a new student I have to give him one of these  templates
Mrz 28 21:18:26 <C14r>  binar you are right (of course)
Mrz 28 21:18:47 *       binar hat das Thema geändert zu: 4. Topic: misc
Mrz 28 21:18:56 <binar> (I know, a "little" late topic change)
Mrz 28 21:19:31 <jever> why couldn't I do this with other too create new ...?
Mrz 28 21:19:59 <rft>   right, only the new student
Mrz 28 21:21:51 <jever> wouldn't it be eaiser to only have one form to fill with data?
Mrz 28 21:22:14 <jever> s/eaiser/easier/
Mrz 28 21:22:37 <C14r>  yes may be
Mrz 28 21:23:15 <C14r>  binar: you know "the relation between examination, tutor, teacher,skel, course, noskel..."?
Mrz 28 21:23:36 <jever> I found it confusing, so it should be made better[tm]
Mrz 28 21:24:20 <C14r>  binar is this al clear to you?
Mrz 28 21:24:21 <binar> C14r: about teacher (differences from tutor) and course (are there group home dirs?) I am unsure
Mrz 28 21:24:31 <C14r>  ok
Mrz 28 21:25:24 <C14r>  the commom thing about this object, is they are "skels"
Mrz 28 21:25:32 <C14r>  a "skel" is a directory
Mrz 28 21:25:34 <oskar64>       C14r: yes, I can do the french translation !
Mrz 28 21:25:44 <C14r>  oskar64: nice! :)
Mrz 28 21:26:10 <C14r>   the skel directory is used to copy data in a just created user directory
Mrz 28 21:26:19 <C14r>  the policy under CipUX is that:
Mrz 28 21:26:31 <C14r>  ever user become the skel of his role
Mrz 28 21:26:42 <oskar64>       C14r: maybe, (it's just an idea) but you can send a mail on the list with listed file that need translation
Mrz 28 21:27:14 <jever> oskar64: he said so above
Mrz 28 21:27:19 <oskar64>       oh
Mrz 28 21:27:23 <C14r>  that means every student becomes the data of the directory "students", when the user is created
Mrz 28 21:27:25 <oskar64>       ok, I just come home :)
Mrz 28 21:27:34 <jever> :)
Mrz 28 21:28:08 <C14r>  this happen to very user, regardless if it is a teacher or a student, ...
Mrz 28 21:28:59 <C14r>  the choice list is also called "2nd Forbach Skel"
Mrz 28 21:29:01 <rft>   ok, that means, I can create a new user under the topic "create  new studen"
Mrz 28 21:29:04 <C14r>  oskar64: tell us why!
Mrz 28 21:29:22 <rft>   and give him his tasks
Mrz 28 21:29:29 <rft>   and rights
Mrz 28 21:29:36 <C14r>  rft: no
Mrz 28 21:29:46 <oskar64>       C14r: why what ?
Mrz 28 21:29:50 <C14r>  rft: it is just about data
Mrz 28 21:30:01 <C14r>  oskar64: explain the "2nd Forbach Skel"
Mrz 28 21:30:11 <oskar64>       ohh
Mrz 28 21:30:12 <C14r>  (it is a French solution" ;-)
Mrz 28 21:30:13 <rft>   what is the different between creating a new student and a new teacher?
Mrz 28 21:30:26 <C14r>  rft (one moment)
Mrz 28 21:30:26 <rft>   or a new guest?
Mrz 28 21:30:32 <oskar64>       the french skel has a preconfigured desktop
Mrz 28 21:30:39 <rft>   o
Mrz 28 21:30:41 <rft>   ok
Mrz 28 21:31:07 <C14r>  oskar64: and, what is the difference between 1st and 2nd skel?
Mrz 28 21:31:22 <oskar64>       uhh, I cannot remember..
Mrz 28 21:31:26 <oskar64>       lol
Mrz 28 21:31:28 <C14r>  hehe
Mrz 28 21:31:46 <C14r>  Answer: the 1st skel is kopied first, the 2nd skel afterwards! :)
Mrz 28 21:31:55 <oskar64>       oh yes
Mrz 28 21:31:57 <C14r>  rft I give you an example
Mrz 28 21:32:07 <rft>   please
Mrz 28 21:32:27 <C14r>  If you have an inportand file, lets say "README.new_student"
Mrz 28 21:32:52 <C14r>  And you wnat to be sure that every new studen will have this file when he joins the school
Mrz 28 21:33:26 <C14r>  then  you copy this file in the direcory "students" and every new created student will become a copy.
Mrz 28 21:33:38 <rft>   ok
Mrz 28 21:33:46 <C14r>  you can do that also whith teachers, but then you must use the directory "teachers"
Mrz 28 21:34:03 <C14r>  This happend anyway!
Mrz 28 21:34:31 <C14r>  if you choose a object from the drop down list, that this is a second copy folder.
Mrz 28 21:34:49 <C14r>  Example:
Mrz 28 21:34:49 <rft>   when I creat a new student, I can give him different one of a lot different templates
Mrz 28 21:35:03 <C14r>  no not a different, a second
Mrz 28 21:35:22 <rft>   s the teacher has only one
Mrz 28 21:35:37 <rft>   he can't get a second
Mrz 28 21:35:38 <C14r>  a student will have the role student and the template dir students
Mrz 28 21:35:46 <C14r>  rft yes a teacher has only one
Mrz 28 21:36:05 <C14r>  so why a second?
Mrz 28 21:36:26 <rft>   when I creat a teacher I have no choice
Mrz 28 21:36:31 <C14r>  if you have a department for students lets say biology and chemistry
Mrz 28 21:36:44 <C14r>  you can create that skel with skeladmin
Mrz 28 21:37:06 <jever> mmmh, that's a little bit confusing and is not thought to end, I think, it should be more cleared by a schema
Mrz 28 21:37:17 <rft>   and I will find this skel on the drop down list?
Mrz 28 21:37:26 <C14r>  and then you have the choise to copy also README.chemistry for a new student of chemestry, of course he will also get README.new_student, becuse his role is student
Mrz 28 21:37:45 <C14r>  rftm yes youwill found that, if not: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/CipUX/ToDo
Mrz 28 21:38:13 <rft>   so, this skels are only preconfigured ones
Mrz 28 21:38:20 <C14r>  yes
Mrz 28 21:38:33 <C14r>  because basically every role has its skel
Mrz 28 21:38:39 <rft>   and normally we will find there our specific points
Mrz 28 21:38:46 <C14r>  and if you do not want to copy you use noskel
Mrz 28 21:38:57 <C14r>  rft: yes
Mrz 28 21:39:08 <C14r>  oskar64: jever binar: next time you can explain that? 
Mrz 28 21:39:09 <rft>   ok...
Mrz 28 21:39:29 <rft>   I think it becomes clear
Mrz 28 21:39:48 <rft>   when the whole is working we can try out it better
Mrz 28 21:39:49 <C14r>  rft: thanks, but do ask if the explanation is to techincal
Mrz 28 21:40:03 <oskar64>       :)
Mrz 28 21:40:06 <C14r>  rft yes certainly
Mrz 28 21:40:22 <rft>   I will write an explanation I you can say if it is correct
Mrz 28 21:40:44 <rft>   no problem for me to do it in this way
Mrz 28 21:40:49 <C14r>  ok no problem
Mrz 28 21:41:04 <rft>   ok, then I'm ready for now
Mrz 28 21:41:11 <C14r>  jever will paste the log, so you can read that in the Wiki
Mrz 28 21:41:16 <C14r>  oskar64: you hat you free day today, how was the upload (the todo list did not inrease)
Mrz 28 21:41:24 <C14r>  hat=had
Mrz 28 21:42:00 <C14r>  binar: when is the meeting over?
Mrz 28 21:42:03 <jever> binar: please end up with meeting here
Mrz 28 21:42:03 <binar> ok, then I'll close the meeting
Mrz 28 21:42:11 <binar> no
Mrz 28 21:42:13 <jever> :)
Mrz 28 21:42:15 <C14r>  :D
Mrz 28 21:42:17 <binar> when will be next one?
Mrz 28 21:42:29 <C14r>  oskar64: when?
Mrz 28 21:43:14 <binar> I will not be available wednesdays during the next months
Mrz 28 21:43:25 <oskar64>       wednesday is hard for me too
Mrz 28 21:43:25 <C14r>  binar: ok, when do you have time?
Mrz 28 21:44:04 <oskar64>       thursday is good for me or monday
Mrz 28 21:44:18 <binar> monday is probably better for me
Mrz 28 21:44:32 <jever> monday isok for me
Mrz 28 21:44:37 <C14r>  binar: for me is ok, rft?
Mrz 28 21:44:40 <rft>   for me too
Mrz 28 21:45:42 <C14r>  binar: so how do you decide?
Mrz 28 21:45:48 <binar> so next meeting on 9. of april?
Mrz 28 21:46:07 <rft>   for me it's ok
Mrz 28 21:46:20 <C14r>  for me too.
Mrz 28 21:46:35 <C14r>  k4x: ?
Mrz 28 21:46:45 *       binar hat das Thema geändert zu: Next CipUX-Meeting 2007-04-09 20:00 CET
Mrz 28 21:47:00 <binar> C14r: it's ok for him
Mrz 28 21:47:16 <binar> meeting closed