CipUX/Meeting/20070221/log
Feb 21 22:07:32 <C14r> The meeting starts now: Feb 21 22:08:02 <C14r> could every one make yourself visible for atendence with \me Firstname Lastname? Feb 21 22:08:13 <C14r> up /me of course Feb 21 22:08:19 * C14r Christian Kuelker Feb 21 22:08:20 * sepski Ronny Aasen Feb 21 22:08:22 * gall_ Guillaume Allegre Feb 21 22:08:24 * luk Luk Claes Feb 21 22:08:25 * jever = JÌrgen Leibner Feb 21 22:08:30 * owl Wolfgang Drotschmann Feb 21 22:08:33 * kaplan Lior Kaplan Feb 21 22:08:48 <C14r> ok, it there a written topic on the page, jever? Feb 21 22:09:09 <C14r> I guess not, so I would suggest to start with a small report from every one Feb 21 22:09:25 <sepski> yay managed to login the port 8000 problem is a bug in the /etc/init.d/cipux-rpcdr script Feb 21 22:09:30 <jever> No, cannot see one Feb 21 22:09:45 <C14r> if no objections are there, can luk start? Feb 21 22:09:56 * FrancoisGannaz (~Mytskine@coriolan.silecs.info) hat #CipUX betreten Feb 21 22:09:59 <C14r> What are the status, blockers, plan? Feb 21 22:10:41 <luk> C14r: I'd rather go second so I have an idea what you expect me to say Feb 21 22:10:58 <luk> status: Feb 21 22:11:03 <C14r> FrancoisGannaz: welcome, the meeting has started, can you identify yourself with /me Firstname, Lastname? Feb 21 22:11:18 <C14r> ok, who would like to start? Feb 21 22:11:31 <luk> I started with the roleadmin for cat-web Feb 21 22:11:37 <C14r> ok Feb 21 22:11:38 <luk> C14r: I'll try :-) Feb 21 22:11:57 * FrancoisGannaz is François Gannaz, a member of Silecs, like Guillaume AllÚgre Feb 21 22:12:05 <luk> I have a good idea of how the template should look like Feb 21 22:12:22 <C14r> luk: goof, how far has the migration gone? Feb 21 22:12:28 <luk> though I didn't use the Dumper before Feb 21 22:12:28 <C14r> goof=good Feb 21 22:12:58 <luk> so that will probably go well (no real blockers that I know of now) Feb 21 22:13:02 <luk> the cgi: Feb 21 22:13:08 <C14r> ok, so you think you are good under way Feb 21 22:13:24 <C14r> luk: what are your plans? Feb 21 22:14:09 <luk> I'll try to finish it tomorrow, though if there keep things pop up in between like yesterday and today, I'm not sure I'll manage Feb 21 22:14:21 <luk> I'll definitely ask whenever I have problems Feb 21 22:14:32 <C14r> ok, but good plan :) Feb 21 22:14:42 <luk> that the package doesn't work out of the box is a bummer Feb 21 22:15:00 <C14r> luk: what do you mean? Feb 21 22:15:08 <luk> the cgi's give blank pages, so I have to look into that otherwise I cannot test it well Feb 21 22:15:18 <sepski> luk, on debian-edu ? Feb 21 22:15:33 <luk> no, on Debian for the moment Feb 21 22:15:40 <luk> unstable Feb 21 22:15:49 <C14r> sepski: luks means possible the CGI::Formbuilder stuff? Feb 21 22:16:20 <C14r> luk: suggest to discuss that into detail afterwards Feb 21 22:16:29 <luk> C14r: ok Feb 21 22:16:37 <C14r> luk: anything else? Feb 21 22:17:24 <luk> I can help for the gettext i18n, though I cannot do multiple things at the same time :-) Feb 21 22:17:54 <C14r> luk: good, I would need you help! Feb 21 22:17:59 <C14r> owl: can you tell us now? Feb 21 22:18:32 <owl> Status: Frustrated Feb 21 22:19:09 <owl> Blockers: Trying to get a virtual instance of debianedu + cipux to install and work Feb 21 22:19:57 <sepski> owl, ill mention the steps needed afterwards Feb 21 22:20:12 <C14r> owl: Plans? Feb 21 22:20:22 <owl> Problem: It's te first time that I try to install it, and I have no experience with a possible networking problem (getting cipx stuff through to the virtual DebEd) Feb 21 22:20:28 <luk> owl: that's something I'm also interested in, especially qemu, though I've not used it much Feb 21 22:20:50 <gall_> same for me Feb 21 22:21:06 <C14r> gall_ luk owl sepski joined forces! Great! Feb 21 22:21:16 <luk> so, probably we should all listen to sepski's guiding steps! Feb 21 22:21:24 <C14r> owl: Plans? Feb 21 22:21:26 <jever> I've a installation here in qemu Feb 21 22:21:28 <owl> Plans: Well... tried it with VMware a few minutes ago, but get lost after booting with expertgui... Feb 21 22:21:49 <C14r> owl: ok, something else? Feb 21 22:22:04 <owl> No. Feb 21 22:22:09 <C14r> jever: would you be next, or should we skip you? Feb 21 22:22:33 <jever> status: Feb 21 22:22:39 <C14r> good :) Feb 21 22:23:03 <jever> been away for nearly two weeks I'm going on now Feb 21 22:23:09 <jever> again Feb 21 22:23:19 <C14r> ok! welcome on board again! Feb 21 22:23:27 <C14r> Plans? Feb 21 22:23:36 <jever> blockers: too old and slow hardware here Feb 21 22:24:12 <jever> plans: testing installations automatically Feb 21 22:24:33 <jever> on debian-edu-etch daily-build Feb 21 22:24:48 <jever> triying to script this Feb 21 22:25:03 <jever> ok Feb 21 22:25:05 <C14r> ok, super! enything else? Feb 21 22:25:10 <C14r> sepski: can you continue? Feb 21 22:25:18 <sepski> okay Feb 21 22:25:19 <luk> jever: did you have a look at babelbox? Feb 21 22:25:31 <jever> luk: no Feb 21 22:25:54 <sepski> status: Yipii. i just got the first look at cipux cat-web ever. first impression: many modules are missing, but it looks good. Feb 21 22:26:02 <jever> luk: give me a URL, please Feb 21 22:26:15 <luk> babelbox is an automatic installation script to show the installation (of Debian) in different languages Feb 21 22:26:27 <C14r> sepski: we are working on this :) Feb 21 22:26:32 <jever> ah, fine Feb 21 22:26:37 <kaplan> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/BabelBoxAlt Feb 21 22:26:42 <C14r> sepski: blockers? Feb 21 22:26:43 <sepski> i have been working with C14r to get the cipux_setup working, and it looks like he's might close to getting that 100% Feb 21 22:26:47 <jever> :-) Feb 21 22:27:27 <sepski> what would that mean ? i dont see any blockers atm Feb 21 22:27:46 <C14r> ok then you answerd that question :) Feb 21 22:27:47 <sepski> shoudl i mention whats needed for cipux-cat-web, or my plans ? Feb 21 22:27:47 <C14r> sepski: plans? Feb 21 22:28:03 <luk> your plans Feb 21 22:28:09 <C14r> sepski: we fix cat afterwards Feb 21 22:28:21 <C14r> sepski: plans? Feb 21 22:28:26 <sepski> plans: writing a cfenging script to do the cipux_sertup unattended Feb 21 22:28:40 <sepski> so it can be inclued in the default cd Feb 21 22:28:59 <C14r> sepski: ok, good we will count on you, something else? Feb 21 22:29:27 <C14r> So I will continue Feb 21 22:29:32 <sepski> im working on the ldap config to get rid of error messages Feb 21 22:29:36 <C14r> "Status:" Feb 21 22:29:36 <luk> show us the steps needed to test in a virtual machine :-) Feb 21 22:29:36 <sepski> and nagios2 in debian-edu Feb 21 22:29:44 <sepski> after C14r Feb 21 22:29:52 <C14r> * CipUX runs under fresh installed Debia, but we see today a case where the port 8000 was not get-able by the Feb 21 22:29:55 <C14r> RPC server. Feb 21 22:30:05 <C14r> * cipux-common and mostly cipux-cibot installs under Debian-Edu Feb 21 22:30:12 <C14r> * The cleaning of the Debain package makes progress Feb 21 22:30:20 <C14r> "Blockers:" Feb 21 22:30:26 <C14r> * no direct skole installation avialable Feb 21 22:30:36 <C14r> * some other work todo Feb 21 22:30:56 <C14r> * not commited the cleaning (sorry kaplan) Feb 21 22:30:59 <C14r> "Plans:" Feb 21 22:31:04 <C14r> * finish clean Debian package tonight Feb 21 22:31:10 <C14r> * work on skole install when Ronny has time Feb 21 22:31:19 <C14r> * supervise luk and owl and others Feb 21 22:31:26 <C14r> any question? Feb 21 22:31:38 <luk> looks good :-) Feb 21 22:31:53 <C14r> luk: thx Feb 21 22:32:00 <C14r> kaplan: can you continue? Feb 21 22:32:04 <kaplan> C14r, Just let me know when you commit, so I can contintue the checks for Debian. Feb 21 22:32:17 <C14r> kaplan: ok, mybe tonight Feb 21 22:32:33 <C14r> kaplan: so have a look tomorow Feb 21 22:32:33 <kaplan> reviewed parts for the debian package: Feb 21 22:32:50 <kaplan> the control files and build depends. Feb 21 22:32:54 <C14r> kaplan: would also likt to work with you and luk on haebraic for cat Feb 21 22:33:15 <C14r> kaplan: ok Feb 21 22:33:28 <kaplan> the rules files (which required some fixes to the makefiles) Feb 21 22:33:59 <C14r> ok, Besides my less of work power, what are the other blockers? Feb 21 22:34:00 <kaplan> the install target of the make files produced some error, which I'm waiting to be fixed. Feb 21 22:34:07 <kaplan> I'll continue afterwards. Feb 21 22:34:29 <kaplan> C14r: haebraic? Feb 21 22:34:52 <C14r> well, I am not sure how your language called in english ... Feb 21 22:35:00 <kaplan> C14r, I don't know yet regarding blockes, as I haven't finished the review. Sorry. Feb 21 22:35:04 <luk> hebrew Feb 21 22:35:11 <C14r> ok! Feb 21 22:35:45 <kaplan> I prefer the first finish the debian parts, and do l10n lates. That's less important for the project. Feb 21 22:35:58 <C14r> kaplan: ok, of course And your plans? Feb 21 22:35:59 <kaplan> lates = later Feb 21 22:36:10 <C14r> (or enything else?) Feb 21 22:36:17 <kaplan> I hope to do most of the checks tomorrow.... Feb 21 22:36:40 <C14r> gall_: can you continue? Feb 21 22:36:50 <C14r> kaplan: ups, finisched? Feb 21 22:37:02 <kaplan> c14r, yes, I'm done. Feb 21 22:37:10 <C14r> ok, gall_ then ... Feb 21 22:37:23 <gall_> OK. status : newbie in the whole Cipux stack Feb 21 22:37:52 <gall_> for the moment, I've tried to install the sid packages Feb 21 22:38:14 <gall_> cipux-cibot cipux-common cipux-rpc Feb 21 22:38:38 <gall_> but I've got errors in the last one Feb 21 22:38:40 <C14r> ok, Blockers? Feb 21 22:38:57 <luk> oh, I was able to install it Feb 21 22:39:18 <gall_> OK, so I think I'll get local help Feb 21 22:39:19 <kaplan> gall_, please let me know of error during installation of debian. Feb 21 22:40:00 <gall_> to be precise, it's not a fresh install but a etch/sid Feb 21 22:40:12 <C14r> gall_ good to know! Plans? Feb 21 22:41:03 <gall_> to debug my installation with Luk (probably) Feb 21 22:41:14 <C14r> OK. Thank you! Anything else? Feb 21 22:41:29 <gall_> And read the doc ! Feb 21 22:41:40 <C14r> :) FrancoisGannaz: can you report shortly what you have done? Status? Feb 21 22:42:08 <FrancoisGannaz> gall_ told me about cipux yesterday Feb 21 22:42:24 <FrancoisGannaz> I took the svn Feb 21 22:42:33 <jever> whom of you is using the packages from http://debiantest.cipux.org/ ? Feb 21 22:42:35 <FrancoisGannaz> and made .deb from it Feb 21 22:43:10 <FrancoisGannaz> I encountered a few problems during installation on running etch Feb 21 22:43:17 <luk> jever: I'm *not*, I used just a svn version I had checked out Feb 21 22:43:29 <kaplan> jever, isn't that the same like the package in the SVN? Feb 21 22:43:40 <gall_> jever : I used the http://debian.cipworx.org/ repository Feb 21 22:43:57 <C14r> gall_: that is for sarge Feb 21 22:44:13 <oskar64> oh there was a meeting today ? :/ Feb 21 22:44:17 <oskar64> where was this news ? Feb 21 22:44:17 <sepski> jever, i build from svn Feb 21 22:44:38 <C14r> oskar64: yes, you can introduce yourself now? Feb 21 22:44:41 <jever> ok, thank you for your feedback Feb 21 22:44:45 * oskar64 Xavier Oswald Feb 21 22:44:55 <sepski> i am seriously considering just uploading to etch-test since they are building just nicely. and there is no reason why they cant get broader test audience Feb 21 22:45:12 <C14r> kaplan: i think it is the same Feb 21 22:45:19 <oskar64> I will do that, I get an upload account yesterday ! Feb 21 22:45:25 <jever> the packages on http://debiantest.cipux.org/ are build every half hour out of trunk svn Feb 21 22:45:33 <sepski> oskar64, great :) upload a few times a day :) Feb 21 22:45:41 <oskar64> lol Feb 21 22:45:54 <C14r> oskar64: what is the status of your work? Feb 21 22:45:58 <kaplan> sepski, which version do you intend to upload? Feb 21 22:46:23 <sepski> etch-test is the development cd we need the svn version there all the time. Feb 21 22:46:32 <sepski> so you can easily upload them often. Feb 21 22:46:40 <sepski> kaplan, oskar64 will do it Feb 21 22:47:03 <oskar64> C14r: I have on my TODO list to review the licence of each file and then test once again on debian-edu and plain debian system Feb 21 22:47:14 <kaplan> sepskim oskar64, it doesn't matter who does that, which version? Feb 21 22:47:21 <sepski> the one in svn ? Feb 21 22:47:31 <C14r> :D Feb 21 22:47:41 <sepski> are there any other version that matters ? Feb 21 22:47:55 <luk> no, not yet :-) Feb 21 22:48:05 <C14r> :) Feb 21 22:48:13 <kaplan> sepski, please wait another day. So I'll review it. Feb 21 22:48:24 <sepski> kaplan, there is no reason to wait Feb 21 22:48:30 <sepski> if you find errors we just upload another Feb 21 22:48:43 <sepski> i upload to etch-test the same package 3-4-5 times a day Feb 21 22:48:48 <sepski> it's the -test after all Feb 21 22:48:48 <C14r> I suggest also to wait till we ( kaplan C14r are finished with makeup) Feb 21 22:49:17 <C14r> sepski: there are some small, why we should do it not today, but we are very close Feb 21 22:49:19 <sepski> when packages are lookign good they are migrates to debian-edu/etch and the show continues on etch-test with new development versions Feb 21 22:49:34 <oskar64> yes, the version from svn Feb 21 22:49:43 <sepski> we also need time with the packages in the repo to write cfengine scrips Feb 21 22:49:46 <sepski> integrate them on the cd Feb 21 22:49:54 <sepski> find out what to toss out to make room for them ... Feb 21 22:50:08 <C14r> 600kb? Feb 21 22:50:08 <sepski> so better 10 upload to many in etch-test then 1 to little Feb 21 22:50:36 <C14r> ok this seems to be discussion we should make Feb 21 22:50:42 <oskar64> I have free time tomorow afternoon to upload cipux into skolelinux. Is this ok for everybody ? Feb 21 22:50:57 <C14r> suggest to conunue afterwards or in a special meeting tomorrow Feb 21 22:51:10 <sepski> oskar64, can you do it tonight or early tomorow ? i'd like for the status of cipus on the debian-edu to say "packagse are uploaded" Feb 21 22:51:38 <oskar64> sepski: I have to work for the Uni this night :/ Feb 21 22:51:50 <oskar64> I can do the upload at 14h00 tomorow Feb 21 22:51:56 <sepski> that's good enough :) Feb 21 22:52:00 <C14r> we should also wait for kaplan aproval, we did some restructuring. Feb 21 22:52:16 <sepski> C14r, the upload to -test does not need aproval Feb 21 22:52:21 <sepski> that's why iy's the -test Feb 21 22:52:26 <C14r> kaplan: could that be ok (it is for skole, not debian) Feb 21 22:52:32 <C14r> sepski: not formally, yes Feb 21 22:52:34 <kaplan> fine with me. Feb 21 22:52:36 <sepski> for the migration from -test to edu it would be good with aproval :) Feb 21 22:52:37 <luk> sepski: it will probably need approval from ftp-master... Feb 21 22:52:43 <C14r> ok, then we do it Feb 21 22:53:09 <kaplan> oskar64, please contact me before uploading... maybe some last minute changes (: Feb 21 22:53:14 <C14r> (if the ftp-master can live with it) Feb 21 22:53:15 <sepski> ofcourse :) Feb 21 22:53:28 <oskar64> luk: yes, Holget is comaintaining it with me so he will review the package before entereing into deiban-edu main Feb 21 22:53:35 <oskar64> kaplan: ok Feb 21 22:53:35 <C14r> luk: what is your opinion? Feb 21 22:53:45 <oskar64> kaplan: you are connected tomorow ? Feb 21 22:53:56 <oskar64> s/holget/holger Feb 21 22:54:27 <C14r> ok oskar64 blockers and plans seems now clear. Feb 21 22:54:34 <kaplan> oskar64, yes, I'll be connected. Feb 21 22:54:35 <C14r> or something else oskar64 ? Feb 21 22:54:56 <C14r> when we should scedule the next meeding? Feb 21 22:55:10 <oskar64> C14r: no, it's ok for me, I will have some comments after doing my tests ;) Feb 21 22:55:19 <C14r> oskar64: ok Feb 21 22:55:36 <C14r> So when we meet next? bevore tomorrow 14h or after? Feb 21 22:55:44 <kaplan> C14r, friday ? Feb 21 22:55:46 <luk> I would wait till at least a review of kaplan tomorrow Feb 21 22:55:59 <C14r> luk: ok that make sense. Feb 21 22:56:12 <oskar64> friday afternoon, Im free Feb 21 22:56:19 <oskar64> or tomorow afternoon too Feb 21 22:56:29 <C14r> ok. Feb 21 22:56:47 <luk> I would say friday Feb 21 22:56:59 <C14r> we should have at least one shorter status meeting tomorrow afternoon or evening for the cipux-cat-web migration Feb 21 22:57:09 <sepski> should i mention the steps i needed to do to get cipux on skole ? Feb 21 22:57:30 <C14r> luk: so 2 wotes for friday Feb 21 22:57:37 <jever> yes, please Feb 21 22:57:50 <C14r> and one vote for tomorrow Feb 21 22:57:57 <C14r> an other opinions? Feb 21 22:58:45 <C14r> ok, then I would say we meet friday afternoon again for everybody. Feb 21 22:58:57 <C14r> what time? 17:00 ? Feb 21 22:59:15 <gall_> it's too late Feb 21 22:59:25 <C14r> ok 14:00? Feb 21 22:59:26 <luk> 14h? Feb 21 22:59:33 <gall_> yes Feb 21 22:59:36 <oskar64> I'm free for 15h30 before, Im at the Uni Feb 21 22:59:39 <C14r> ok for me Feb 21 23:00:13 <C14r> ok for me 14:00 Feb 21 23:00:25 <C14r> gall_: luk what about 15:30? Feb 21 23:00:56 <gall_> OK for a short meeting Feb 21 23:00:56 <oskar64> or frifay morning at 10:30 .. Feb 21 23:01:04 <oskar64> friday Feb 21 23:01:17 <luk> morning is fine Feb 21 23:01:28 <C14r> for mee to Feb 21 23:01:33 <kaplan> for me too. Feb 21 23:01:41 <gall_> me-too Feb 21 23:01:44 <oskar64> hehe nice Feb 21 23:01:47 <sepski> do you people not work ? :) Feb 21 23:02:02 <C14r> sepski: yes we do Feb 21 23:02:03 <oskar64> sepski: :) Im student ;) Feb 21 23:02:05 <luk> sepski: this week only on Debian-Edu and Debian :-) Feb 21 23:02:11 <kaplan> That's why we attennd skolelinux conferences... Feb 21 23:02:18 <sepski> ahh Feb 21 23:02:20 <C14r> yes! Feb 21 23:02:39 <C14r> So wee meet Friday 10:30 here again,